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Help! Emergency! 91 Legacy Stranded (Still)
Posted 04 September 2003 - 12:22 AM
Posted 04 September 2003 - 01:40 AM
Posted 04 September 2003 - 01:48 AM
It happens that, after a longer time of inactivity, the engine cranks as if there is no compression. I guess this is because of low oil pressure in the hydrolic lifters. In that case you need a very strong battery or a good jump starter (donor car) so the engine can crank long anough to fill up the lifters. While starting you kan hear the cranking sound change while the cylinders one by one are making compression.
Just a tought.
Posted 04 September 2003 - 01:53 AM
The left one hase cams on the back for the cam censor by some Legacy's.
Posted 04 September 2003 - 06:17 AM
I'd confirm spark/fuel again.
Did you try the trick with a strip of paper at the exhaust to see if it gets sucked in when cranking the off-timed engine? Maybe it would show you an out-of-time indication now if you think the timing is drastically out of sync. Probably need a helper to crank the engine though.
Hope you get it running soon.
1 Lucky Texan
Posted 04 September 2003 - 07:53 AM
Posted 04 September 2003 - 08:05 AM
has a picture, but it is not too clear. We are crossing our fingers for ya!
Posted 04 September 2003 - 10:35 AM
Originally posted by subieman
It's hard to get the timing right the very first time. Keep trying untill she starts up. It took me a few tries on my first timing belt replacement. Also make sure none of the tabs on your crank gear are broken off. There should be 6. I broke one off once and the timing sensor just wont work with 5 tabs. That took me a month to figure out. I had to buy a Loyale so I could get to work. haha
Posted 04 September 2003 - 10:37 AM
First thing I'm gonna check is the cam pulleys, when I started out I had them set out so I would replace them correctly, but in all my mucking about I could have easily have switched them. I figure I have a 50% chance of them being on wrong!
Originally posted by Legacy777
Did you TDC the #1 cylinder when you were lining the crank back up with the oil pump gear?
Posted 04 September 2003 - 10:56 AM
Having the link to the Endwrench article should steer you right as far as setting everything up.
Sorry for my misinfomation on checking the distributor. I need to keep reminding myself there is newer technology in these engines.
Posted 04 September 2003 - 11:19 AM
Posted 04 September 2003 - 11:52 AM
Posted 04 September 2003 - 11:56 AM
Posted 04 September 2003 - 12:45 PM
Even if there are other confusing issues, it won't start now.
I doubt a reliable fix for the existing gear is possible. So, over on marketplace or at a local junkyard ,a used one might be found. Otherwise, a new one will need to be purchased.
too bad - but I think you're close!
Also, it probably isn't a problem, but can any of you other guys explain about the tenisoner? Is it gonna 'pump up' like a hydraulic lifter? If so, what keeps up from being to loose when the engines starts?
1 Lucky Texan
Posted 04 September 2003 - 01:35 PM
In the original parts catalog this cylider formed peace mounted with two bolts is actually called 'adjuster' the roller is called 'tensioner'.
I only once had a bad adjuster, it leacked oil and could be pushed in by hand about 1/4 inch. Nothing wrong, only a short rattle by cold start in the morning.
Posted 04 September 2003 - 02:21 PM
Posted 04 September 2003 - 05:31 PM
Posted 06 September 2003 - 03:03 PM
Thanks to all the help I got from everybody here at USMB, my Legacy is up and running. It kinda threw a scare into me though, at first go I spun it for about 30 seconds or so and no go. Pulled a plug and could see no fuel was getting there, so I scratched my head for a while and then thought maybe the injectors had just dried out or something and it just needed a longer spin. Sure enough after about 45 seconds more of spinning, a few coughs and away she went. Big puffs of white smoke coming out to the exhaust pipe. Oh! Oh! So I took it for a quick spin just to see if it would continue belching smoke but it cleared up right away. I vaguely remember somebody once saying that kind of thing can happen with a Subie 'cause of the horiz. opposed engine design. At any rate it seems to be running well now. Thanks again for everybodies' help and input.
Posted 06 September 2003 - 03:15 PM
As the saying goes: "Drive On".
Posted 06 September 2003 - 06:16 PM
I wish I had your dedication, I woulda' let the dealer have it I think. Though there was a time in my life when I HAD to fix the '48 Willys, the '51 Chevy(that thing ATE generators!), the '78 Civic that sucked a valve in cylender #2, the '64 Ramb - well- other car issues in my life) 'cause of no money but I guess I've gotten lazy and stiff as I've gotten older.
Also, I think this thread will be helpful for folks in the future too. I learned a lot. You have helped unknown future Sube owners and they OWE YOU MAN!
1 Lucky Texan
Posted 06 September 2003 - 11:13 PM
Screw loose, broken tooth, anyway, I feel ya LorryB. Good job.
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