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Does any one make a locker for a Suby?


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Posted 29 July 2003 - 05:56 PM

i'm interested. hey Travis. email me!! i'm being stationed in <strong>yuma, arizona</strong> for the next 4 years. just a couple hours away. we could go wheeling!! and we can test the subaru's ability on the AZ trails. i've been in dire search for someone to wheel with when i arrive in 2 months. send me a phone # and i'll try to get all my good offroad pics from my family back home. my car is fully set up for wheeling. please call me or email me. i'm on the east coast right now, finishing up my school for Aviation Electrician for av-8b harrier jets.

i'm sure my car won't do the hammers, :rolleyes: i don't want that challenge. but the florence and apache junction area i'd die to try them! :eek:

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thank you!! contact me, please!!

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Posted 03 August 2003 - 06:19 PM

Travis,
It's good to see some folks come over here from POR. Hope your idea works for locker fabrication. Of course the rear locker would be trick. But a front locker would be better. Most of the guys who have been doing this for a while, and on the forefront of Subaru offroading will amaze you with their ability to drive these small cars and wagons/brats/hatches... With or without locks, lifts, and unimog axles. ;) What is missing is the type of aftermarket boltons and replacements you speak of manufacturing. Welcome over to the USMB!

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#28 TurboSPFI

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Posted 18 July 2005 - 09:16 AM

What ever happend to this thread?

#29 MorganM

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Posted 18 July 2005 - 09:27 AM

What ever happend to this thread?


People cought wind of the price and said "well thats more than my subaru cost!" :rolleyes:

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Posted 18 July 2005 - 10:04 AM

Did you really expect anyone to really "design" one, manufacture it and sell it for a price that makes sence for an old Subaru?

Whenever I hear these threads I just sit back and laugh :lol:

I'd love it if it did but...Nothin's ever gonna happen!

Deal with it.

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Posted 18 July 2005 - 06:52 PM

Did you really expect anyone to really "design" one, manufacture it and sell it for a price that makes sence for an old Subaru?

Whenever I hear these threads I just sit back and laugh :lol:

I'd love it if it did but...Nothin's ever gonna happen!

Deal with it.


Hey mudrat79 made that front lsd. I would buy one. I am just saving up. I don't mind spending the money for what I love to do. Plus the dang cars run forever and you can always swap the parts into another 250$ beater when you kill one.

I am collecting as many cheap and free subes as possible that way I can always wheel my favorite cars :)

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Posted 18 July 2005 - 11:02 PM

Totally, a locker would be nice for people who just dont want to mess with the welded diffs.

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Posted 18 July 2005 - 11:23 PM

Hey mudrat79 made that front lsd. I would buy one. I am just saving up. I don't mind spending the money for what I love to do. Plus the dang cars run forever and you can always swap the parts into another 250$ beater when you kill one.

I am collecting as many cheap and free subes as possible that way I can always wheel my favorite cars :)


yes, Mudrat makes a front LSD, and subaru makes a rear LSD, we know about this, but, as said in the name, LSD's still Slip. noone makes a true locker, and most likely...never will.

IMHO, a front LSD is a waste of money, just rig up the parking brake cables to independant handles, and when it get's hairly, lock the spinning wheel. it's not as clean as posi-trac, but it's hella-cheap, and almost as effective!

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Posted 18 July 2005 - 11:23 PM

were much too cheap of a group to have anything like this ever happen. lift kits are hard enough to sell...

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 09:09 AM

yes, Mudrat makes a front LSD, and subaru makes a rear LSD, we know about this, but, as said in the name, LSD's still Slip. noone makes a true locker, and most likely...never will.

IMHO, a front LSD is a waste of money, just rig up the parking brake cables to independant handles, and when it get's hairly, lock the spinning wheel. it's not as clean as posi-trac, but it's hella-cheap, and almost as effective!


Forget the ebrakes; just floor it. :-p

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 09:33 PM

Forget the ebrakes; just floor it. :-p

Momentum 4 teh win!!!11111


Momentum's gotten me in more trouble than it was worth :rolleyes:
2 hours of digging in the snow.... that was a bit more.. heh stupid getting high centered...

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 10:47 PM

I was just reading some stuff, and found out that some Audi's in the 80's had manual center diff and rear diff lockers... i'm wondering how hard it would be to convert one of these setups for a subaru.. hmmm....

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Posted 20 July 2005 - 10:13 AM

I recieved a prompt reply from my email to powertrax (which is now owned by richmond gear) and I think they may be interested. If you want a locker for your suby now's your chance. Email the gentlemen and let him know you'd love to have a locker for your car. If we let them know there are crazy people who like flogging their cars offroad we could have a professionally built and manafactured locker to fill this untapped market. So lets all email MBolding@richmondgear.com and let him know we have money waiting for a locker. Here's a copy of our emails so far.


From: Overkilloffroad@aol.com
To: info@powertrax.com
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 5:01 PM
Subject: Why don't you make a locker for ....


Older subarus? Many people are picking up these cars for cheap and modifying them for off road use. The subaru set up has the car in front wheel drive on the street and locks the rear end in for 4x4. A rear lock rite would be totally unnoticed on the street but would totally transform the car off road. Owners are currently welding their rear diffs and pulling CVs for street use. Many owners would be overjoyed to install a rear lock-rite and save this hassle. As an added bonus the subaru rear diff is the same unit used in Datsun 510s. With one product you could be the sole supplier to 2 untapped enthusiast markets. Please feel free to contact me if you would like more information on the growing off road Subaru market, or if there's anything I can do to help you make a Subaru rear locker a reality.

Thanks

Travis Heidenreich



THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT MARKET. I WILL COPY OUR DESIGN ENGINEER AND NATIONAL SALES MGR.THANKS FOR YOUR INTEREST IN POWERTRAX.
MICHAEL BOLDING
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I did as you asked and requested production of a locker rear end and the response was :


WE DO NOT OFFER ANYTHING FOR YOUR VEHICLE.SORRY

Thanks,
Michael Bolding
Customer Service


So is this guy really going to try and produce these things or what??

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Posted 20 July 2005 - 12:00 PM

So is this guy really going to try and produce these things or what??


Not untill you show him you have enough people lined up with money in hand to make it worth while.

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Posted 20 July 2005 - 01:22 PM

I had a thought, kind of brought up by the dual-ebrake post...

How about "traction control" instead of LSDs/lockers? Given the relative adundance of ABS systems in JYs (as compared with LSDs), it might be cheaper to modify a Legacy or similar ABS system to fit earlier cars and provide traction control functions.

Though archemitis' post is reality and a buzz-kill.

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 04:21 AM

If anyone could send me the specs my wifes uncle is a master machinist and has all the tools money and metal if she coaxed him I could have one built in two to three months

anybody wanna try send me some specs thanks mike

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 10:32 AM

If anyone could send me the specs my wifes uncle is a master machinist and has all the tools money and metal if she coaxed him I could have one built in two to three months

anybody wanna try send me some specs thanks mike


What if he had a whole diff + carrier ? I got a spare one I'd happily donate to research :brow:

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 05:57 PM

Uh, I have 2.

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Posted 12 August 2005 - 05:21 AM

Ill give and address you figure the sending cost Ill go half

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Posted 12 August 2005 - 08:56 AM

Ill give and address you figure the sending cost Ill go half


PM me the address. I have a freight forwarding company I use for large items. I'll reply with a quote from him. Pick up would be at a hub/dock somewhere to keep costs down.

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 07:47 PM

Well did anybody ever figure anything out? Its now almost 2011.

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 11:22 PM

It went down the tube really but my machinist came up with a lsd kit like mopar makes

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 04:05 AM

Damn! This thread/idea died in the arse didn't it?!

I too am after a rear R160 diff locker, namely an air locker for total lock when I want it offroad (not always ;)) and open when I'm on the black top - I'm in the midst of building up an L series AWD centre difflock gearbox with 4.11 diff ratios. Hence the air locker for the rear end.

I've been down the welded rear diff modification road and hated putting in and removing the CVs all the time. I went the open diff again after heading to the snow and the EJ conversion.

Now I'm after an air locker for the rear - but like everyone else there's a load of resistance from manufacturers. I reckon there would be a great market for this item - especially if it was fitted into the standard r160 diff housing, then everyone with an AWD subaru would be able to use it if they desired.

I for one want one and would definitely be lining up (and saving) for a rear air locker for the r160 diff.

Cheers

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 10:01 PM

since man started driving subie in the offroad genre, he has wanted locker.......

thisthread went nowhwere because it is like many others.a few at a time willing to partially pony up for something being manufactured, then the cost being to high to pull off.

this idea has been here for a long time, but no one with the machining knowledge has stepped forward to offer a cheap alternative to the market....much less a choice at all.....

the costs involved would not net the proper profit is usually the theme that is encountered.played out by stating that they are willing to manufacture if a preorder of 25 or so is made....etc.....

for a while i was working on an idea of a collar for an axle to act as a locker...with a lincoln locked center chunk you could just disengage the axle....
kinda like a circular puzzle piece that could ride on bearings, and push together to engage, pull apart to disengage.

but, i digress, i too could not afford the machining of the pieces, etc..

these posts come out about every couple of years.......cheers, b

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 02:52 PM


for a while i was working on an idea of a collar for an axle to act as a locker...with a lincoln locked center chunk you could just disengage the axle....
kinda like a circular puzzle piece that could ride on bearings, and push together to engage, pull apart to disengage.

but, i digress, i too could not afford the machining of the pieces, etc..

these posts come out about every couple of years.......cheers, b


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