Peter Parker Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Hello all, New to this board. I have a 99 Outback Legacy with 98,000 miles. My check engine light came on a while back and I went to the local repair shop to read the codes. They said the knock sensor is failing. So I ordered a new sensor and it is on the way. My cheapy shop manual has terrible instructions and an even worse photo of the sensor on the engine. I was wondering if someone out there might have some helpful advice and possibly a detailed photo depicting the exact location of the sensor? Thanks in advance. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Welcome to the board Spiderman. I think the sensor can be found on top of the engine towards the rear end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royboy159 Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Hey Peter---I knew Spiderman drove a Soob! Just a tip. Get the exact torque spec for the new sensor. It can make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hklaine Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 I stole this from somewhere a while back. Credit to whoever put it together. If you have EJ25 maybe its similar - (?) Some quick notes and pictures on how to replace the knock sensor on a 1995 Subaru Legacy Outback (2.2 liter EJ22 engine). Click images to enlarge. The engine - not very clean! New knock sensor. Move the throttle body intake pipe out of the way. Sensor location is on the driver's side rear close to the throttle body. Arrow points to it. Remove the sensor with an extension and 12mm socket. Old sensor removed. Install the new sensor. Torque the bolt to 16ft-lbs. Clear the engine code (if present) using some sort of OBD scan-tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 check the wiring to the sensor. a dirty connector/harness or exposed wire can cause the knock sensor code in the ECU as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Parker Posted May 4, 2005 Author Share Posted May 4, 2005 Thanks, this is just what I was looking for! Hope the 2.5 is similar. I stole this from somewhere a while back. Credit to whoever put it together.If you have EJ25 maybe its similar - (?) Some quick notes and pictures on how to replace the knock sensor on a 1995 Subaru Legacy Outback (2.2 liter EJ22 engine). Click images to enlarge. The engine - not very clean! New knock sensor. Move the throttle body intake pipe out of the way. Sensor location is on the driver's side rear close to the throttle body. Arrow points to it. Remove the sensor with an extension and 12mm socket. Old sensor removed. Install the new sensor. Torque the bolt to 16ft-lbs. Clear the engine code (if present) using some sort of OBD scan-tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Parker Posted May 4, 2005 Author Share Posted May 4, 2005 I figured this could have been the problem too, but I didn't know where to find the sensor. I will try this before replacing the sensor. Thanks for the information!. check the wiring to the sensor. a dirty connector/harness or exposed wire can cause the knock sensor code in the ECU as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddc Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 I have the same problem with my 1998GT. The knock sensor on the 2.5L appears to be tough to get to and not an easy job to change out or test. My Haynes manual indicates that quite a bit of the top of the engine needs to be removed, which includes the alternator and manifold assembly. Is there an easy/quick way to remove this sensor, one that doesn't require major disassembly? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcoaster Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 I have the same problem with my 1998GT. The knock sensor on the 2.5L appears to be tough to get to and not an easy job to change out or test. My Haynes manual indicates that quite a bit of the top of the engine needs to be removed, which includes the alternator and manifold assembly. Is there an easy/quick way to remove this sensor, one that doesn't require major disassembly? Thanks in advance. Also, it mentions about draining some of the coolant out since the bolt extends into the cooling passages. Is this true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksoob Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Also, it mentions about draining some of the coolant out since the bolt extends into the cooling passages. Is this true? For sure on a 2.2, no ... draining of coolant is not necessary. Neither is removing the intake manifold as the Haynes says. Going by Haynes, this would be a one hour job. Going by reality, it's less than 5 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subyrally Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 in the sohc ej25, you only need a long socket extention and i think a 12or 14mm socket.i replaced mine a couple years ago, in the walmart parking lot after i bought my first set of tools. well, not my first set of tool, but it was like the first set of high quality sockets and extentions. the hardest part of the replacement was getting the sensor hooked up to the harness if i remember correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Parker Posted July 27, 2005 Author Share Posted July 27, 2005 Thank you for the information. After I posted the original question, I did replace the sensor and the engine check light is now off. I did have to remove the air cleaner components. Getting the bolt down through the sensor was a bit tricky with all the other stuff in the way. In all about a half hours work. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Glad you got it fixed. Now you can get on with the more important duties of a superhero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Parker Posted July 27, 2005 Author Share Posted July 27, 2005 Thats right... every super hero needs a trustworthy vehicle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royboy159 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Thank you for the information. After I posted the original question, I did replace the sensor and the engine check light is now off. I did have to remove the air cleaner components. Getting the bolt down through the sensor was a bit tricky with all the other stuff in the way. In all about a half hours work.Cheers! Hey Peter----Good to see this update. So many threads just die. The good ones keep coming back to life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddc Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Mission accomplished based on the photos and post comments! Thanks everyone. It was a quick job like everyone mentioned on the 2.5L in my 1998 Legacy GT. Having a magnet tool helped in retrieving the bolt. My check-engine light is off and the car's power band seems to have returned. Still not as much power or quickness as a friends 1997 Legacy Outback (maybe the GT's weighs more than the outback, both are 5 spds?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganM Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 This was a helpful " how to " for changing a knock sensor. With out that graphic I wouldn't have known exactly how to position the sensor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT95 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 For sure on a 2.2, no ... draining of coolant is not necessary. Neither is removing the intake manifold as the Haynes says. Going by Haynes, this would be a one hour job. Going by reality, it's less than 5 minutes. He is right on. My 95 LSi wagon threw that code. I got a knock sensor from O'Reiley's for way cheaper than anyone else. The manual said to do all this stuff, I looked under the hood, then swapped them out without removing a thing. Some graceful fingering is involved, but be patient and save yourself all that hassle of going all out. I unplugged the battery to reset the ECU, and was good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganM Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 For me I had to unplug the cam position sensor, the two fuel injectors on the drivers side, and some little red purge solenoid or something. Then I could pull the wire harness that was in the way so that I had enough room to work on the knock sensor. That was really the only thing in my way. This was an EJ22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyLaneInASUBIE Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 So I have a 99 Subaru Impreza outback sport... got the sensor out and it’s definitely the problem. So I’m trying to put the new one in and I’m hesitant on the torque for the bolt... I’ve heard like four different numbers now and I was wondering where I could get that information? Some say 15 foot lbs some say 15.3 I’ve heard 16 ft lbs and I’ve heard 17... anyone have any idea?! Thanks for any feedback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 17 is spec for 95-99 Phase 1 and will work here for your Phase II 99 the FSM from Subaru is free all over the internet for that car. Get that and work off of it. There’s an angle reference for the pigtail they want to retain as well The numbers referenced are so close that theyll fall within the +/- range and average tools in old threads won’t be accurate anyway. Unless it’s freshly chased and cleaned block side threads and a new bolt, using lube, and a really good torque wrench that has been calibrated recently, and the angle of access and extensions/adapter interfaces aren’t reducing that number.....it’s not going to be exact anyway within the small range of those numbers posted. Do 18 and call it a day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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