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#1 cricket

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Posted 09 May 2005 - 06:47 PM

Someone (Todd?) mentioned the 4WDs have different bumpers or brackets than a regular 2x4 wagon. This link http://hometown.aol....diaz/index.html shows the brackets of the 2x4 I worked on last last year. Does anyone know if they are the same on a 4X4? Can someone post or link to a picture of a 4WD's front bumper brackets? Thanks.

#2 garner

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Posted 09 May 2005 - 07:08 PM

Those don't look like the front bumber brackets on my 79 Brat (4x4 duh)

On the Brat they are kind of a sheet metal T shaped piece. Sort of designed to crumple a bit and let the bumber plow into the front Valance when the previous owner tried to use it as a push vehicle :banghead:

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Posted 09 May 2005 - 08:45 PM

The 2WDs had to pass the 5 mph impact test. The BRATs were exempt, as a "utility vehicle". The mounts on the 4WDs did not contain a shock and were kind flimsy IMO. Not much you can do about it though.


The same with the doors on the BRATs and 4WD wagons. They did not have the side impact beams on them. You can however, switch the doors with a 2wd wagon, for wagon.....or 2WD coupe/sedan with the BRAT. That way you can upgrade to a higher margin od safety!

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Posted 09 May 2005 - 11:00 PM

Okay. Got it. Does anyone have a picture of a 70s Brat front bumper bracket (assuming it's the same as a 4WD wagon bumper bracket), or of a 4WD wagon front bumper bracket, with the bumper removed? I might have to fabricate something to adapt the tow bar to the front bumper bracket (bumper removed), and right now I'm kind of working in the dark. Thanks!

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Posted 10 May 2005 - 11:07 PM

anyone? picture?

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Posted 19 May 2005 - 02:36 PM

anyone? picture?


How're these?

80 brat dl 4wd

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#7 cricket

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Posted 19 May 2005 - 03:15 PM

Thanks! They look just like the ones on the 78 2x4 wagon.
Maybe the 78 2x4 bracket is the same as the 80 4WD bracket, but different from the 79 2WD bracket? Hmmmm
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How're these?

80 brat dl 4wd

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#8 SUBARU3

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Posted 19 May 2005 - 03:43 PM

Those pics are not from an 80 BRAT. ALL gen 1 4WDs had pressed steel mounts. Not shocks. I will attempt to get pics.


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Posted 19 May 2005 - 09:19 PM

yeah, mine are presses steel.maybe your brat was wrecked and then fixed with those or ???

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Posted 19 May 2005 - 11:17 PM

This one should be '77 Stage II -'78 4WD wagon ONLY

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Posted 19 May 2005 - 11:19 PM

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The funky but chic Stage I 4WD bumper from '75 - '77 Stage I

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Posted 19 May 2005 - 11:19 PM

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This one is 4WD Stage II 1977 and 1978 only (Wagon)

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Posted 19 May 2005 - 11:20 PM

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1977 Stage I 2WD all models

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Posted 19 May 2005 - 11:20 PM

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1977 Stage II - 1979 2WD all models

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 12:33 AM

Paul's pic is the same for all Gen 1 4WDs form 77 onward. BRATs and wagons. (Except for the early 77/ and some 78s with the small "rounded" bumper). Most had the "box" bumper with the brackets in Pauls pic.

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 09:06 AM

Todd, you mean this one, right? By the way, you guys are awesome. This looks so flimsy I think I'd be better off drilling holes through the front of the bumper to attach the tow bar brackets. Thanks all again, Ennio

This one should be '77 Stage II -'78 4WD wagon ONLY

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 12:35 PM

Correct

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 02:36 PM

Those pics are not from an 80 BRAT. ALL gen 1 4WDs had pressed steel mounts. Not shocks. I will attempt to get pics.


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Huh, funny, that's the car I'm looking at, and that's the front I took pix of, and those're the brackets holding the bumper on...

Maybe 75subie's right that it was damaged then repaired as such, but if that's the case it was done so well i can't tell...

But then again I'm mostly a new gen guy so i guess i don't know 80 gen 1 body configuration from stock:drunk:

http://www.ultimates...ead.php?t=35439
4th msg has some pix, also in older gen forum...
bringing new life to an old brat...

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 02:41 PM

I'm learning I'm learning!! ;)

Hooray for gen 1!!

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 04:11 PM

I'm learning I'm learning!! ;)

Hooray for gen 1!!


Another satisfied customer!!

Scanner working!!! loving life.

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 04:26 PM

(at the office). Can't wait 'til quitting time to open the box and enjoy.

I'm learning I'm learning!! ;)

Hooray for gen 1!!



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Posted 26 May 2005 - 02:41 PM

Those brackets are the same for my 1979 1600 GL wagon too!

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Posted 26 May 2005 - 07:40 PM

You're in Arizona? Is your 1600 2WD or 4WD? By the way, Friday night 5/27 I drive to CO to pick up the wagon. Hopefully all works out with the tow bar, etc.



Those brackets are the same for my 1979 1600 GL wagon too!



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Posted 26 May 2005 - 07:59 PM

Yep, Flag... I have an almost fully restored 1979 GL 1600 series II. Missing a working analog clock and spindle nut covers for the wheels. Other than that, she's been repainted and looks great. She's 4WD...


Have fun.

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Posted 27 May 2005 - 05:41 PM

Ennio:


Call me when you pass through Dallas/Ft Worth. I might be able to meet you and say hi.

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