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ea82 2wd to d/r 5spd 4x4 conv, can i keep existing flywheel, and gastank?


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#1 Guest_subu luvr_*

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Posted 06 September 2003 - 03:05 PM

spfi ea82 in 87 wagon, fwd 5spd

found d/r 5spd 4x4 in sedan

wanna know if i need to pull the flywheel from the donor car,
or if i can be slack...

does the starter vary between different trannies?

wagon gas tanks are same 2wd/4wd?

#2 Qman

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Posted 06 September 2003 - 03:08 PM

You should be OK. The flywheel is the same. The gas tank is the same. The starter should be fine as well. Make sure to keep the driveline, diff & hanger, front struts and the rear shocks(for height). Yours doesn't have them. I don't know for sure but I think the center bearing mount will be missing from the 2WD also. Just check to be sure.

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Posted 07 September 2003 - 05:21 AM

true, there are no mounts on the 2wd model.
take te entire rear suapension as one piece, so the mont for the diff is there, and the rear trailing arms that have the 4wd hubs.

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Posted 07 September 2003 - 07:14 PM

The clutch and flywheel where not the same between my 2WD 5speed and the 4WD dual range 5speed I pulled. The clutch is significantly larger for the 4WD and therefore the bored out area in the flywheel for the clutch/pressure plate were larger.

Might need to drill some holes thare are not there for the 4WD rear main crossmember assembly. I had to drill holes out for the rear diff hanger. YOu will see exactly where you need to drill; if they are not already drilled out for you. Center carier bearing for the drive shaft will be interesting too. I have not got that far. I'm leaning twoard getting mine modified into a solid drive shaft and skipping the center carier bearing. As usual however I'm sure funding will over ride my desires.. and I'll end up just trying to bolt in the OEM drive shaft :(

I'm about half done with this very same swap. All I can say is may the force be with you :D

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Posted 07 September 2003 - 10:28 PM

tomorrow we attack!

will advise...

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Posted 08 September 2003 - 01:08 AM

yah. what are you slackers talking about? he needs the flywheel and clutch from a 4x4. tranny splines are different:D

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Posted 08 September 2003 - 01:18 AM

Starter may also be different.. some were, some weren't.. seemed to be a whimsical type of thing.. The standard 2wd starter body is(as I found out the hard way) longer than its 4wd counterpart..

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Posted 08 September 2003 - 01:25 PM

all of the different styles of starters i have seen will mount the same

at least being a 5spd to begin with you can use the same mounts and crossmember. the only trouble spot will be the driveshaft mount.
what you got is a little less involved than the 2wd auto to 5spd 4wd that we did, so i know for a fact you can do it with no problem

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Posted 08 September 2003 - 01:30 PM

MilesFox: Were there holes or atleast spots to drill out holes for the drive shaft carrier bearing?

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Posted 08 September 2003 - 02:11 PM

on the ea82 you will see the holes stamped out on the outer metal, but they are solid on the next layer. you have to drill all the way through(ours was a sedan, thru the trunk) they will come out just at the edge of the inner fender plastic where it meets the carpet.

its opssible to just drill the first layer, and put a captive nut behind it through the hole where the bumper mounts fit into(on a wagon)

if you go thru the floor, use a fat washer, as it will want to pull thru as you torque it down. i would suggest using the nuts with the nylon insert so it will stay tight without a lot of torque

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Posted 08 September 2003 - 03:14 PM

all of the different styles of starters i have seen will mount the same



True, they do mount the same.. But when I did my 5 spd conversion, and tried to use the longer 2wd starter, the vacuum module on the tranny got in the way and the starter wouldn't mount.. had to dig out my spare, which thankfully was a 4wd starter with the shorter body

I know you are doing D/R, wehreas I was only doing the S/R swap, so the longer body starter may fit, as you prbably don't have that vacuum module to deal with(unless you have a diff lock, then you still have to deal owith it)




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