offroadsubaruguy Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 has anyone ever thought of making a mid rear subaru???? i figured a hatch would be an excelent donor car, then from there either go with an ej22, or maybe an er27 with a fwd tranny....... it would be loads of fun, but a little difficult to do unless you used an auto....... just figured id throw the thought out to the board..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPGsuperchargedBrumby Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 just one question...........why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumby Boy Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 just one question...........why? Agreed but at a guess probably for somethin different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonist Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 What about to a brumby/brat? You wouldn't have to worry about trying to insulate the cab from the engine noise. Fuel tank mounting would also be easier. I think an EG33 or EZ30 with twin turbos with a FWD trans would be excellant. other makes FWD cars generally have twin cables used for changing gears. Maybe something could be adapted? BTW if you do this, I want pix & I'll be buying a plane ticket to come over for a ride:brow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumby Boy Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 What about to a brumby/brat? You wouldn't have to worry about trying to insulate the cab from the engine noise. Fuel tank mounting would also be easier. I think an EG33 or EZ30 with twin turbos with a FWD trans would be excellant. other makes FWD cars generally have twin cables used for changing gears. Maybe something could be adapted? BTW if you do this, I want pix & I'll be buying a plane ticket to come over for a ride:brow: I'll be buying a ticket too:banana: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 because Mid-Rear is the setup of choice. NOT...F-AWD longitudal is best. But...if you notice, all the worlds greatest sports cars and race cars are mid-rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumby Boy Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 because Mid-Rear is the setup of choice. NOT...F-AWD longitudal is best. But...if you notice, all the worlds greatest sports cars and race cars are mid-rear. Yeah i suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadsubaruguy Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 i just thought it would be fun...... maybe if i can find a donor car and some place to store it all, i might try it....... could be lots-o-fun..... :brow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumby Boy Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 could be lots-o-fun..... :brow: Yeah could be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWX Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 I want to try it one day, take a hatch, throw an EJ257 in the back with an AWD tranny, find a way to make it drive the wheels right. would be a fun, expensive car but well ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_talk Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 I always thought that a FWD XT6 would be a great mid-engine project. It could be the true sportscar (2 seater) Subaru never made. BTW, Sports and race cars use mid-engine layouts because they handle better due to a lower polar moment of inertia. Think of it like a flywheel, if you have two flywheels of the same weight, one with most of the weight in the center, one with the most of the weight near the rim. The center weighted one will react quicker and require less energy to accelerate. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subarubrat Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 I did the groundwork on doing just this but other projects got in the way. What I worked out is to use a Justy, Impreza front Xmember in the rear, Impreza hubs, A arms, struts etc. which would all be the right spring rate and everything would fall into alignment. And run tuned WRX motor with the 2WD auto. 225s in the front and some 285s in the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 I did the groundwork on doing just this but other projects got in the way. What I worked out is to use a Justy, Impreza front Xmember in the rear, Impreza hubs, A arms, struts etc. which would all be the right spring rate and everything would fall into alignment. And run tuned WRX motor with the 2WD auto. 225s in the front and some 285s in the rear. sounds like what we are working on here at Top Speed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushbasher Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 I did the groundwork on doing just this but other projects got in the way. What I worked out is to use a Justy, Impreza front Xmember in the rear, Impreza hubs, A arms, struts etc. which would all be the right spring rate and everything would fall into alignment. And run tuned WRX motor with the 2WD auto. 225s in the front and some 285s in the rear. sounds like the subaru version of the renault r5 turbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWX Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 sounds like what we are working on here at Top Speed... gabba, gabba? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subyrally Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 i could dig a mr justy, imagine how fast it would be with a wrx engine. bet it would handle like it is on rails too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 twin turbo EG33 is faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWX Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 twin turbo EG33 is fastAr. mad tyte JDM yo! fixed that for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archemitis Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 after driving a rear wheel drive, higher horsepower hatchback, i think this would be the coolest thing for a street car. i've seen it done with 80s vw pickups, with a big ole build van motor in the back. a hatch with no weight in the back is hard to manage in rwd, i wonder how hard it would be to steer with no weight up front? popin wheelies around corners instead of doin power slides, seems scary. i hate how far subaru engines hang out in front of the front wheels... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_talk Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 a hatch with no weight in the back is hard to manage in rwd, i wonder how hard it would be to steer with no weight up front? popin wheelies around corners instead of doin power slides, seems scary. With the engine mounted midship and the fuel tank relocated up front you should be able to get a very balanced weight distribution. But it will drive much different than a front heavy car. i hate how far subaru engines hang out in front of the front wheels... This is probably the single biggest disadvatage to the boxer/transaxle combo, but imagine the front overhange with a longitudinal inline 4 in front of the axle. Thats why all the I4s are transverse, but front mount transverse doesn't work as well for RWD/AWD. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenaissanceMan Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Just thought I should mention to everyone here that I too am looking into the mid-engine idea. I have an ER27 bolted to a 2wd 5 speed sitting in my garage. My idea is to put it in my lifted wagon (84 GL) to go all out baja style, so I can get the room I need up front for suspension. I havent really started looking into it all that much other than I got the engine and transmission. Every once in a while I go out there and scratch my head for a bit trying to figure out how to cut up the back of my car to get it all to fit and such. -Mike (the alternative is that I also was thinking of bolting the transmission to my EA82T engine and putting it midship in the kit car my friend and I are building from the ground up) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 ... Thats why all the I4s are transverse...Gary Nit, Nit nit!!! There are quite a few longitudinal I4 FWDs. Though you could nitpick right back that some of these are technically front-midengines, such as some Renaults. Gee.. I have a Justy with engine/tranny sitting on the ground... I have an EJ22... just need a FWD tranny... or maybe use an AWD and route the driveshaft back forward... hmmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habib99 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 There is a custom car company in the USA making prosche 356 replica cars with subaru engine and transmission (mid engine), see if I can find the link...yep: http://www.specialtyauto.com/ think they just built a new tube frame chassis to recieve the running gear though - wish I could afford one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jzab Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 These guys also build a mid-rear Subaru powered car http://www.sakercars.com.au Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.