mcbrat Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 her you go .... anybody for 14" extreme mud tires.... not sure how they'd handle the weight of a car, but for a off-road only vehicle..... http://www.onlineparts.com/ITP+Mud+Lite+XTR+27x11R-14+(03200151).html http://www.laramp.net/mudlite.htm http://www.yaskyatv.com/prod/tr/mudlt.html and here's the wheels... 4x137 http://traxms.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ITPCSTYPE7_14&Category_Code=ATVProducts_Wheels_ITP_Aluminum_Cseries_14inch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet82 Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Mick, I think someone beat you to it.... http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?p=306557#post306557 I believe most of those tires are rated at about #500lbs which is about the weight of a standard ATV. Spread the weight of an ATV over four tires and the working load is not much. However, the average Subaru is around 2500lbs loaded? You'd be seriously overloading those tires if they are rated the same as other 6plys..? Having said all that there are a bunch of ATV tires mounted on Subies. The secret is inflating the tire pressure big time more than what you would run if it were an ATV. I run 2.2 to 3.3psi in my ATV. I run 22 to 33psi in the buggy and it seems to work. I was giving rides in the buggy for the kids at a kids parade over the 4th and my GBC Dirt Devils were pretty cruel to the lawn I was driving on... For what it's worth, Glenn 82 SubaruHummer--26X12X12 GBC Dirt Devils 01 Forester--factory rubber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soobmater Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 check these out. http://traxms.com/images/maxxis_mudzilla_300.jpg http://traxms.com/images/outlaw_300.jpg not 14's but those are awsum! and they sell up to 28's on that site. i think the outlaws are made up to 29.5's but not sure. those would look awsum on a soob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegablade Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 if i had enough money laying around to get those i sure would, i dont know what they would say if you tried to get them mounted, i have a friend whoed do it. thats probably the only way to get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet82 Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 I considered both of those exact tires. I decided against the mudzilla because of the depth of the tread. I didn't get the outlaws because of the price. I paid $57 for the 26" GBC Dirt Devils. They have an 1 1/4" lug. Some tires have 2" now!!! The problem with deep lugs is they give you a real bad ride until you "plain out". Once you get over 5 mph the ride is not so bad but until then you feel every lug going around on the tires. You don't roll when you first start out, you klunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archemitis Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 my hatch weighed 2100 lbs, at its lightest. no way to make it any less. thats exceding the limit of these tires. whats that summer weigh, about 1800? my favorite kind of tires: ones made for trucks, that are bigger than stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet82 Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 I hope were still on point with the tires...? I built Summer bigger, faster & stronger than the plans called for. I put rock sliders on the sides, a funky "Xterra" roof line/luggage rack. I stretched the plans and made it a 4 seater. What i'm really trying to justify is....Summer weighs #2000 even! Gassed and ready to rock. I was hoping for #1500 and I think that is possible but not with the way I built it. The aluminum probably weighs close to #200. The plans are metric so you can't get the exact steel called for. The stuff I used is thicker than the plans called for. Any point that can touch a rock is even thicker steel! This puts me right at the weight limit for the tires....unless I run duallys... http://www.rhinobuggies.com.au/images/stalkerdualy.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soobmater Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 the mud bugs are cool also. im not sure about them anymore but it used to be the superswamper vampires that used to be the most aggressive. the itp 589's arnt to bad either.http://traxms.com/images/mm_27_magnum_triclaw.jpg that would be cool to. you buggy sounds awsum. my friend has dirt devils on his quad and they are pretty aggresive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archemitis Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 so.. it weighs as much as a hatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet82 Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 ....So put some tires on it!..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archemitis Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 ....So put some tires on it!..... your loosin me here, why would you build something you cant drive on the street, that weighs as much as a stock subaru? with stock sized tires? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soobmater Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 stock sized tires? the outlaw makes a tire in 29.5inches and 12.5 wide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganM Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 stock sized tires? the outlaw makes a tire in 29.5inches and 12.5 wide Thats not what he's running however. =================================== I thought we beat this silly ATV tire idea into the ground 3 times before? Yes I even brought it up years ago asking if it was an option. It's not an option for someone who actually drives on the pavement. It's not an option for any vehicle heavier than a hatch or justy.... I would shred and blow out one of those wussy ATV tires on my wagon; its #3800 fully loaded. Out on the rocks I would either blow one out when comming down off an obsticle or shred one up spinning it under that weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soobmater Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 nope if you mean sweet, his are 26's and that is still bigger than stock by quite a bit.i was just sayin that they do make some pretty big four wheeler tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet82 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 your loosin me here, why would you build something you cant drive on the street, that weighs as much as a stock subaru? with stock sized tires? Now your loosing me, Stock Subarus weigh 2400+, loaded and in the real world they weigh more than that. Stock tires will measure out to 22.5" not 26" I stopped at 26" for gearing, I don't drive around in 4 lo. I built this for off-road!...Not for the street. Weighs less and performs better than anyones stock Subaru. Makes sence to me...it's a great toy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archemitis Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 like i said, my hatch weighed as much, and was throroughly offroad. now i weigh 250 more lbs. but has twice the hp. and twice the ground clearance. i just dont want anyone runin those atv tires on a subaru. truck tires fit well, and last very long time, since the subarus dont weigh nearly as much as the vehicles the tires are designed for. i like to over kill, not run on the edge of whats considered safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bgale04 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 i know the justy bolt pattern is 4-140, with some drilling would it work for a 4-137, or would that ************ up the wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet82 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I wouldn't use an ATV rim if that's what your thinking (4-137) I looked into that but nixed the idea due to the strength of the rim. Someone up in the northwest is running a Justy with ATV tires already but I believe they are running them on custom rims. You could have rims made almost as cheap as you can buy a nice set of ATV rims. ...but has twice the hp. and twice the ground clearance. 160 Horse and two feet of ground clearance That's impressive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganM Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 160 Horse and two feet of ground clearance That's impressive! I think your math is a little off 80hp to 150hp 6" to 12" ground clearance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet82 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I think your math is a little off 80hp to 150hp 6" to 12" ground clearance Stock is 8" double would be 16" If your doubling me you'd be needing 24" 80hp doubled would be 160 wouldn't it? I stand by my math. I didn't make up the double clearance double horsepower thing. I just did the math. To be honest not only do I find it impressive, I find it unbelieveable! Some how I think we've lost focus of what this thread was all about? This thread was never about debating my Buggy VS Stripped Hatch. I'm sure they both have a place. Wasn't the real idea, to explore the possibility of 14 ATV tires on a subie? Glenn, 82 SubaruHummer 01 Forester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganM Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 It wasnt 8" off the ground when he got it; it was about 6" at best. Due to worn out suspension. I doubt his EA81 had even 80hp on a good day; prolly more than doubled with the ER27 in there. It wasnt a doubeling of OEM specifications; it was a doubeling of his hatch as it stood. The idea of ATV tires on a Subaru has been coverd several times. It's a bad idea. It seems like a good idea at first; hell I thought it was back before I knew anything about Subarus and ATV tires. However it's been hashed over and it's simply not safe or feasible for 99% of Subaru owners. I dunno why we are talking about either subject any longer. I'm going to go look at more WCSS7 pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archemitis Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Stock is 8" double would be 16" If your doubling me you'd be needing 24" 80hp doubled would be 160 wouldn't it? I stand by my math. I didn't make up the double clearance double horsepower thing. I just did the math. To be honest not only do I find it impressive, I find it unbelieveable! Some how I think we've lost focus of what this thread was all about? This thread was never about debating my Buggy VS Stripped Hatch. I'm sure they both have a place. Wasn't the real idea, to explore the possibility of 14 ATV tires on a subie? Glenn, 82 SubaruHummer 01 Forester dont make me post pics. i have 16 inches to the bottom of my unibody, at the middle of the door. i had 150 hp when subaru made my motor. i put 2.5 inch exhaust, on a "refreshed" 2.7 with other hp mods. i would guess 160 hp is very attainable. the ea81 came with something more like 65 hp another funny thing... i just looked at the tires on my motorcycle. it weighs 400 lbs. the tires say 500 lb on them. i aint runing something made for a 400 lb vehicle on a 2100 lb car! its as easy as that. atv tires=unsafe.... but then you have to drive the thing to actualy test anything out. put some miles on it, real offroad miles, and see how many sidewalls fail big brown hatch- runin truck tires 98 harleydavidson-runin tires that can support a passenger car(apparently) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet82 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 dont make me post pics. i have 16 inches to the bottom of my unibody, at the middle of the door.i had 150 hp when subaru made my motor. i put 2.5 inch exhaust, on a "refreshed" 2.7 with other hp mods. i would guess 160 hp is very attainable. the ea81 came with something more like 65 hp another funny thing... i just looked at the tires on my motorcycle. it weighs 400 lbs. the tires say 500 lb on them. i aint runing something made for a 400 lb vehicle on a 2100 lb car! its as easy as that. atv tires=unsafe.... but then you have to drive the thing to actualy test anything out. put some miles on it, real offroad miles, and see how many sidewalls fail big brown hatch- runin truck tires 98 harleydavidson-runin tires that can support a passenger car(apparently) Put what ever tires you want? It really doesn't matter to me? I put ATV's on mine. I'm happy with it. So are the folks at RhinoBuggy I'll let you know when one of my 6ply sidewalls fails. Sorry to hear you have a Harley...but that's another thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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