Midwst Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 I am looking for a product to put on my tires to help protect them from the sun. I know there are petroleum based prodcuts...but I suspect those can harm the rubber. I'm leaning towards a silicone spray, but wanted to get other's imput. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hklaine Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 I personally use 303. I don't use it on tires, but on the dash and other exterior trim. I would imagine it is also good for tires - ? http://www.303products.com/ -Heikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commuter Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Another vote for 303. There is a page on their site that talks specifically of tires. Most products are detrimental to rubber. Commuter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howards11 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 303 is fine but there is a product from Stoner called More Shine Less Time for Tires. Here is the web site [/url]More Shine Less Time for Tires. ~Howard :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hklaine Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 303 is fine but there is a product from Stoner called More Shine Less Time for Tires. Here is the web site More Shine Less Time for Tires. ~Howard :cool: Does it include any petrochemicals and/or silicone oils? Didn't see any mention on the site. -Heikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howards11 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Does it include any petrochemicals and/or silicone oils? Didn't see any mention on the site. -Heikki Heikki: I'm not sure what it contains. You could e-mail them and ask about the contents. Stoner products are very good. To contact Stoner: timesaver@stonersolutions.com 1-800-227-5538, Monday through Thursday 8am to 8pm ET and Friday 8am to 5pm. ~Howard SEE NEXT MESSAGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howards11 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Here's how to tell what is in a Stoner product: Material Safety Data Sheets Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) are available for any Stoner product. Simply contact our Customer Service Department if you have questions or if you wish to receive an MSDS by fax, email, or postal mail. Call 1-800-227-5538 Mon-Fri, 8 am-8 pm ETor email your request to: timesaver@stonersolutions.com ~Howard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hklaine Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Heikki:I'm not sure what it contains. The materials I mentioned can harm your tires, but exist in many rubber/vinyl products. Just a friendly heads-up. BTW: They don't exist in 303 :cool: -Heikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwst Posted July 25, 2005 Author Share Posted July 25, 2005 303 has many different products. Which one specifically do you use? Will it help prevent dry rot/cracking on tires? I guess maybe I should spend some more time on their web site, but am being lazy. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howards11 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 See link below: 303 Aerospace Protectant ~Howard :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commuter Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 From the 303 website. WHY ARE TIRES BLACK? The sidewalls of tires which are parked for extended periods dry, check and split. Annually, tire "dry-rot" is a multimillion dollar problem for RVers, trailer boaters and owners of classic cars. This engineering memorandum is a scientific examination of the whys of the process and explains in detail how 303 Protectant™ is an answer to the tire dry-rot problem. Tire manufacturers blend into the tire polymer certain chemical ingredients which inhibit damage from ozone and ultraviolet light, the main environmental degradents of tires and all other types of synthetic and natural rubbers. Ozone is an odorless gas, but is commonly thought of as the "electric train smell". Though more severe in cities and manufacturing centers, ozone is part of the are we breathe everywhere on earth,. Hastened by the hazardous effects of UV light, ozone eventually causes rubber to dry and become brittle no matter the locale. ULTRAVIOLET LIGHT: The need to protect rubber against UV damage is why tires are black. For this purpose a common type of UV stabilizer called a ‘competitive absorber’ is used. Competitive absorbers work by capturing & absorbing harmful UV light wave energy (instead of the adjacent molecule of tire polymer. . .that’s why it’s called ‘competitive’). Competitive absorbers have the added ability to convert harmful UV light wave energy into heat so it can dissipate harmlessly. ALL tire manufacturers use the same competitive absorber, carbon black. . .an extremely inexpensive compound. All other UV stabilizers are prohibitively expensive. This is why tires are black and why tires are not available in designer colors. All UV stabilizers are sacrificial, meaning they are gradually “used up” to where they can no longer protect against UV damage. As carbon black loses the ability to do its job, it turns gray. This is why rubber grays as it ages. OZONE: Tire manufacturers use waxes to protect against ozone. When tires are in use (regularly running up and down the road for example) they flex. Flexing causes the protective waxes to migrate to the surface where they form a physical barrier between the air (ozone and oxygen) and the tire polymer. This process ...the waxes migrating to the surface of the tire during flexing...is called “blooming”. When tires are not regularly used (a parked RV, boat trailer or classic car, etc.), blooming does not occur. Ozone begins eating away the protective wax and before long reaches the tire polymer. Often by this time, the surface carbon black has lost its ability to protect against UV. With UV light and ozone working in concert, degradation starts. The tire dries, checks and will eventually crack. OTHER DEGRADANTS: Petrochemicals and silicone oils can remove the protective waxes and increase the rate of degradation. Common automotive “protectants” and “tire dressings” are typically devoid of UV stabilizers of any type and contain petrochemicals and/or silicone oils which dissolve away the protective waxes and can actually aggress the sidewall. In the event of warranty sidewall failure, one of the first things tire manufacturers look for is evidence of the use of these types of products. When found, this is often cause for not warranting the sidewall failure. 303 FOR TIRES: 303 contains no petrochemicals or silicone oils and does not remove the protective waxes. 303 is actually absorbed into tires, delivering its unique set of powerful UV stabilizers into the tire polymer, supplementing and surpassing the UV protective action of the carbon black, and leaving a long-lasting, flexible protective finish that is water repellent, detergent resistant and will not attract dust. Ozone must eat through the 303 before it can get to the wax. 303 is an extremely effective anti-oxidant and anti-ozonant. 303 is the longest lasting, most powerful protective and beautifying treatment for tires and all other synthetic and natural rubber. TIPS FOR TIRES: 303 treated tires have the rich, waxy, almost vinyl-like, dark black look of new rubber. 303 tires look and feel like brand new, not greasy-new. FOR MAXIMUM TIRE BEAUTY: Spray 303 directly on a clean & dry tire until the sidewall is thoroughly wet with 303. Without touching the rubber, easily wipe away any 303 overspray from the rim. Do each tire the same way. After 10 - 20 minutes, wipe around each tire once or twice with a dry rag to pick up any unabsorbed 303. Your tires will have the look and feel of fresh new rubber. FIRST TIME USE: On sidewalls that are excessively dried out, two treatments may be necessary the first time. To note: A) The regular use of 303 can entirely prevent the UV and ozone damage associated with parked tires. Reapply 303 every 20-30 days. 303 is 100% safe for all types of wheels, all alloys. Wheels regularly treated with 303 repel water, road grime and brake dust and clean up far easier than untreated wheels. ------------------- I used it once on tires (winter tires for storage). I go thru tires fast enough that it doesn't really matter to me. The stuff is great on the interior vinyl and window weatherstripping. And we can get it at Canadian Tire now in Canada! Commuter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjwirth Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 I don't like using any tire dressing on my cars anymore. As Commuter posted, some of these products can "damage" the surface of the tires- if anything products like armour all can make the tire look worse (brown and hazy) once the sheen wears off. I used to use a Meguires tire product (the name escapes me. I have no idea if it contained petroleum or siloxanes either, but it looked like it was waterbased). It worked ok- seemed to last longer than regular tire dressings. The only thing I didn't like was that the "goo" would splatter off onto the car even if you wiped off the excess. I think there were a lot of "nooks and crannies" for excess dressing to accumulate, where the towel couldn't reach. Now the only time I use the stuff is if I'm selling a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Clark Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Rub some brake fluid on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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