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having issues with ea82t rebuild
#1
Posted 03 August 2005 - 11:51 AM
i am doing the job in the car as i dont have a garage or an engine hoist. i cant keep the rockers on the lifters. everytime i go toget the cam carrier on, one or two rockers fall off, then when i get those back on, the others fall off. im getting rather frustrated with this cause i really want to get it running before next weekend. i know there is a way to get this together in the car as a few poeple have already done it before. if i had an engine hoist and a garage this would have been done the other week.
are there any tricks to getting the cam carriers in without the rockers falling out?
thanks
#2
Posted 03 August 2005 - 12:36 PM
#3
Posted 03 August 2005 - 12:37 PM
#4
Posted 03 August 2005 - 01:18 PM
when in doubt, duck it.
i used a bit of duct tape over the rockers and that held em. i managed to get teh carrier back in after a bit of though and couple cigarettes. after i cooled off a bit and started thinking rationally, i finally got it on. granted, i noticed that i cracked the back side of the timing belt cover, not that i usually run them on the car. are the back side covers at the cam gears neccisary? i know that the one by the oil pump is needed to keep a gear at the right position, but what about the one thats cracked?
#5
Posted 03 August 2005 - 01:34 PM
#6
Posted 03 August 2005 - 02:23 PM
With that thought though... depending on how the car is on the ground, (jackstands or not), you should be able to jack up one side of the car slightly. That *should* give enough angle to make it easier to keep the rockers in place.
#7
Posted 03 August 2005 - 03:38 PM
grease didnt work for me.
when in doubt, duck it.
i used a bit of duct tape over the rockers and that held em. i managed to get teh carrier back in after a bit of though and couple cigarettes. after i cooled off a bit and started thinking rationally, i finally got it on. granted, i noticed that i cracked the back side of the timing belt cover, not that i usually run them on the car. are the back side covers at the cam gears neccisary? i know that the one by the oil pump is needed to keep a gear at the right position, but what about the one thats cracked?
I have none of the timing belt cover pieces on my wagon. not even the rears behind the cam sprockets. I just used the seam between on the cam case to line up on.,
#8
Posted 07 August 2005 - 12:39 AM
i am trying to finish my head gasket job on my rx, the tear down asn head gasket replacement went by with out any real issues, but now that i am trying to reassemble the engine, i am hitting walls left and right.
i am doing the job in the car as i dont have a garage or an engine hoist. i cant keep the rockers on the lifters. everytime i go toget the cam carrier on, one or two rockers fall off, then when i get those back on, the others fall off. im getting rather frustrated with this cause i really want to get it running before next weekend. i know there is a way to get this together in the car as a few poeple have already done it before. if i had an engine hoist and a garage this would have been done the other week.
are there any tricks to getting the cam carriers in without the rockers falling out?
thanks
Geee on the bluw wagon engine revamping... i used Moly-B grease applied with an acid brush to the top of the HLA and the under side of the Rocker Arms.... then i easily put the cam tower on and had a easy go at it.
oh and i even had a thin film of Moly-B on the top machined surface of the rockers and the cam lob's too. just for good measure.
#9
Posted 07 August 2005 - 12:41 AM

#10
Posted 07 August 2005 - 12:52 AM
engine tilt with the jackstand doesn't work that well. doesn't really work at all as you typically can't get enough angle to make any difference in my oppinion. i tried it the first time and it wasn't worth the effort considering grease is garaunteed to work every time. what makes it worse is that the car is usually off the ground quite a bit for me...XT6 being a little higher probably and even on jackstands sometimes to facilitate pulling the headers. so unless you keep the car right on the ground and make the headers a serious PITA to remove then using a jack isn't going to give you much angle.
the short answer...grease 'em every time and don't look back. if it doesn't work then the grease is the wrong kind or not thick enough or not using enough of it. they stick very well the dozens of times i've done it.
#11
Posted 07 August 2005 - 01:01 AM
After doing it outside of the car (after trying disassembly in situ), I can't imagine doing an adequate job of prep with the engine not right in front of me.
#12
Posted 07 August 2005 - 06:42 AM
is there any trick to getting the mounts into their holes without unbolting the tranny and using an engine hoist? cause i really dont want to undo the tranny and i dont have a hoist.
#13
Posted 07 August 2005 - 01:59 PM
I spent over 30 minutes cleaning each block surface and chasing the bolt holes.the prep work ws easy...
Should I ask why the engine mounts are out of their holes?... is there any trick to getting the mounts into their holes without unbolting the tranny and using an engine hoist?.
I do not know a good way to get the mounts back in without a hoist or two good friends.
#14
Posted 07 August 2005 - 02:48 PM

#15
Posted 07 August 2005 - 05:46 PM
now when i lower it back down, it doesnt line up. the mounts are at the outside fronts of the holes and i cant get the engine to slide back about 1/4" to get the mounts in place.
#16
Posted 07 August 2005 - 06:11 PM
this is pretty common in my experience, in case you were wondering why it did that. mine catch at times as well.
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