Kernzie Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 I have a '84 Subaru Turbo that has somehow zapped the Electronic Control Module. It floods the engine on start-up but if you can keep it running long enough it will warm up and run like a top. A new one is prohibitive to buy and I haven't had any luck finding a used one. (It has to be for the fairly rare Turbo model with multiport fuel injection) The car would go right the the wrecker if I hadn't rebuilt the engine and put a clutch in a couple of years back. Does anybody know where I could find one or if there is something else I can do?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 hmm.. what makes you rhink the ECM/ECU is zapped.. when mine went up in smoke the car wouldn't even start!..no fuel pump, spark or injector pulses.. Unfortunately my knowledge doesn't extend to EA81 turbos, but on an EA82, there' s an electronically controlled valve that regulates idle when cold. there's also a coolant temp sensor that helps the ECU control fuel mixture. Have you tested the ecu? If you decide its going to the wrecker anyway, let me know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. RX Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Yea, it sounds more like one of the sensors is sending the wrong info to the ECU. If the ECU was zapped, the car wouldn't even run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Sounds more like a temp sensor to me. It thinks it is already hot. That might explain why it runs so well after it's warmed up. Have you ran a code check yet? That would be the first place to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodaka Rider Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Kernzie: I just emailed you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 I agree with Qman. It sounds like the temp sensor is shot so it thinks the car is warm when in fact its not. But when it gets warm, the sensor basically right so it runs fine. Try replacing it, it should be all good then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 before replacing it, try cleaning the contacts on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodaka Rider Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 Thanks for the reply Kernzie. I just sent you some more mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 Might check your O2 sensor as well - that's been known to screw up an otherwise good system. I had mine go (84 feedback carb), and the engine wouldn't run. Disconnected it, and it came back to life. The temp sensor on the same car was also bad, but didn't cause it to stop running. Also - can you read the codes from your ECU? Should be a little flashing light on it..... mine gave me codes for both the O2 and Temp sensor - led me straight to the problem. Very informative, and easier than hunting down the sensor by testing everything. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 good info given thus far. Cold flooding? Could it be running lean?? that is what a bad or corroded CS will cause. ah? a clutch on a turbo EA81?? a.k.a. EA81T Hey guys - did we miss something here? Who did the swap, thought they all came with slushbox trannies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 Good eye skip. I missed that(brain didn't process the info) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnW Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 I am very happy to see another ea81T owner on here! Very happy to see another ea81T car with a manual trans in it. I know of a handful so far that have been done. Mick's old Turbo Brat, that I temporarily owned. RGuyver technically had this config but his was just MPFI I think. SuperRallyVovo? Currently working on something like this. My 83 Turbo wagon with be using an 88 RX 5spd trans. And now this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XSNRG Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 Maybe it's a '85 with a '84 production date? I know where there is a '84T for parts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asavage Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Originally posted by Kernzie I have a '84 Subaru Turbo that has somehow zapped the Electronic Control Module. Does anybody know where I could find one or if there is something else I can do?? http://www.car-part.com/ Lists about nine of them, $75 to $125 But a dead ECU is pretty rare. Get it to tell you the codes, and it'll often send you right to the bad part. http://usmb.net/repair/?CurrentDirectory=FOLDER_3f29dd8b7a4f46.89471656/&FileType=Article&File=ARTICLE_3f53a13f7c7491.41102012.art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernzie Posted October 1, 2003 Author Share Posted October 1, 2003 Thanks for all the responses! FYI - Checked the resistance of the temp sensor, its OK. Replaced it and cleaned the contacts anyway, still no luck Subaru guys (non-dealer) swear it is the ECU and say they have seen the same thing before. I'm going to try to get some codes read and see if there is anything more I can do. Went and picked the car up last night from the mechanic and although it was a battle I kept her going until it warmed up and started running properly. I'll keep ya posted Kernzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernzie Posted October 1, 2003 Author Share Posted October 1, 2003 FYI. The car is an 84 (old body style) and I had the auto taken out and a 4sp put in. Rebuilt the engine - new heads were $400 Cdn a side! If anybody has a ECU or wants a good parts car e-mail me. (I have an extra rad, aluminium rims with summer tires from an 82 2-door, gold painted stock rims with winter tires and some odds and ends as well) Kernzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whippet Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Hey Shawn, You forgot about my 83 wagon with a 4 speed. I'll send you some pictures of it since I painted it. It looks real sharp. I have an extra ECU from an 84 EA81T that I would part with email me at cthurnau@megawest.com cjt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernzie Posted November 16, 2003 Author Share Posted November 16, 2003 Thanks to Whippet for sending me an ECU. It works!!! Problem solved. Thanks to USMB for providing a forum where we can get the information and parts we need to keep our Soobs alive and kicking. I was starting to feel like I was alone in the world having a rare car with nobody besides a Subaru mechanic who knew anything about it Word to the wise - Whippet is a good guy and was very good about sending it right away cheers:drunk: Word to the wise2 - If you're going to send things to Canada spend the extra $$ and send them by courier. I told Whippet to send them regular snail mail to save money and it took close to a MONTH! to get here! As well make sure that you explain in detail what is in the package or our Customs people will get even slower. Kernzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernzie Posted November 16, 2003 Author Share Posted November 16, 2003 Oh yeah, forgot to ask. Where is the flasher unit for the signal lights located on my turbo. I looked under the steering wheel where the ECU is located and where my manual says it is but I can't find it. Any ideas?? Kernzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 Glad you were able to get the car going again. The EA81T can be pretty finiky to say the least. The flasher unit is in that general area, if you turn the flashers on it will help you locate it. I'm thinking its above the fuse box. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richierich Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Glad that you got yours running. I have a website dedicated to ea81t. Ea81T Index Needs updating, but haven't had the time. For everyone who has a ea81t out there, the ECU are very weak and do go out. Sometimes they are intermitted problems, so it is always good to have a spare ECU to check stuff out with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernzie Posted November 17, 2003 Author Share Posted November 17, 2003 Hey that 84 Turbo Coupe has the same wheels I do (star aluminium). I believe they come from an 81 coupe. Is this correct? I am glad to get the ECU Whippet but was sorry to see the damage on your daughters coupe from where it came. :boohoo: Two coupes hit in front of your houses! Hope this isn't a trend! I think I'll find a safe place to park my 84 Turbowagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 I believe these wheels only came on 84 Turbo's and GL-10 models. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupidru Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 Rob..I had those wheels on an 84 4x4 carbed sedan...that came w/ auto tranny only as well. But I think those wheels where offered as an accessory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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