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Snow Tire Recommendations?
Posted 01 October 2003 - 01:35 AM
Any suggestions? I drive a Legacy wagon 2002.
Also should I get the same size as the stock tires or go narrower?
Posted 01 October 2003 - 06:22 AM
Posted 01 October 2003 - 07:13 AM
Posted 01 October 2003 - 08:44 AM
It's fairly quiet, has forgiving handling, and grips well on compacted snow. Main weakness is braking on wet asphalt above 5 degrees centigrade, ABS comes on early, but it's not scary or anything.
This tyre is a compromise, but it sounds like what you're looking for. "Real" snow tyres tend to be noisy and have mediocre grip on wet asphalt.
Winter tyre in stock size - for a 1990 Legacy! - 185/70R14.
What's your stock size? I would suggest going down 10mm on width, and maybe compensating in profile.
Posted 01 October 2003 - 09:03 AM
Im currently using Continental TS780 with good results. Only thing is, is that they are expensive.
Posted 01 October 2003 - 11:28 AM
Posted 01 October 2003 - 11:29 AM
Have any of you heard any good or bad things regarding the Nokians, Michelins or Kumhos?
Posted 01 October 2003 - 01:31 PM
Hakkapelita 1's... studded
Hakkapelita Q's un studded
and Michelin Alpine Sport
i'd recommend any of those to everyone.
excellent grip in the whitestuff!!!
Posted 01 October 2003 - 02:56 PM
Posted 01 October 2003 - 05:28 PM
I also have a set of Hakk 10's in 235/75-15 that I have run on both a Trooper I used to own, and my Carice.
For the Forester, I think I'm going to go to a mud tire in the smallest size I can get.
I think the BFG 215/70-15 will fit.
Posted 01 October 2003 - 09:41 PM
Are they different types of Nokian tires?
Posted 02 October 2003 - 01:15 AM
Higher sidewalls will produce more wallow and woolly steering, but these things are good on snow, keeps the car's reactions predicable.
Posted 02 October 2003 - 04:30 PM
For those of you wanting to know about tire width. If you plan on lots of deep snow, narrower tires are the way to go. They have less of a tendency to "ride up" on the snow and get down to the harder surface below. Check out the really skinny tires used by the World Rally Series cars in the winter events; there's a good reason they don't use fat tires.
Posted 02 October 2003 - 06:46 PM
Posted 03 October 2003 - 12:28 AM
More lbs/Sq inch = better traction.
Posted 04 October 2003 - 01:41 PM
I think in general, for slop and deep snow you need a narrow, big lugged tread. Narrow to cut through deep snow (not plowing) to the hard pack, lugs to grip, or lugs to channel out the water in slop conditions.
For ice, you need a soft compound with either studs, or an abrasive, sand paper like surface.
For hardpack, a wider tire is okay because you're not moving snow, you just need grip. Here a wider tire with lots of little grooves, or sipes work well. Although your narrow, lugged tire will do a good job as well.
I guess it all depends on where you want the best performance. I prefer the narrow lugged style like the Hakkapelitta 10's, or the Cooper Wintermaster (no longer made, but similar patterns are available from other companies).
Posted 04 October 2003 - 07:24 PM
Posted 05 October 2003 - 02:23 AM
A 225/60 15 will have the same contact area as a 165/75 15?
That's amazing!! Too bad the volkswagon people didn't know that when they made the beetle to drive on ice and snow. They would have put wider tires on it.
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