MoscowSubaruDude Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Is this even possible? I'm looking into as a modification to make driving with lifted rig/larger tires a bit easier... when I do the lift, that is. What I'd like to do is take the 4.11 ring gears out of a legacy or whatever else has them in it, and put them on the ea81 diffs. Will they fit? Or would I have to have ring gears custom built? If it would work it'd be awesome. Anyone try this? or know bolt patterns/gear sizes? I'd imagine the pinion would have to be swapped as well. Thanks in advance, just gathering info atm. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 there is a ghost article floating around about a guy that coupled a 4:11 gearbox and a forester 5th gear to an rx tranny....that is what i am talking about........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baccaruda Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=35140 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballitch Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 i would really like a tranny with the 1.59 low range and the 4.11 gears, wouldnt that be a nice crawl ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadsubaruguy Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 if you can swap 4.11's, why not just go all out and get some 4.44's??? thats what i'd do....... even better crawl ratio.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahDL88 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 if you can swap 4.11's, why not just go all out and get some 4.44's??? thats what i'd do....... even better crawl ratio.... I believe that the 4.11 gears are much more easily adapted to the EA tranny then the 4.44 as IIRC the 4.44 only came in autos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myxalplyx Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I believe that the 4.11 gears are much more easily adapted to the EA tranny then the 4.44 as IIRC the 4.44 only came in autos Anyone thought of swapping the 4.44 gears into an auto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanislru Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 4.44's are available for manual as well, JDM imorters' have them and Rallispec sells the R+P's seperately for both the front and rear. Almost a thou. buck US for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballitch Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 lol....4.44 gears in a 3AT, it runs high on the freeway as it is, but would be killer for offroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Just a guess, but id be thinking: 1. Front housings, input shaft and primary reduction gearsfrom a d/r EA82 gearbox. 2. Shafts from an EA82 fulltime 4wd box, because these, having the centre diff, have the same general layout/hollow second shaft as a EJ20 box. 3. R&P from the EJ20 box, and use whichever centre diff and housing fits best. For onroad the EJ one with a viscous coupling, offroad the open/lockable EA82 fulltime one. I suspect the major problem in this might be matching up the centre diff or housings if they use different splines/bearing sizes etc. A 4.11 Viscous rear diff would bolt in nicely and youre done. Here in NZ there is a legacy which has a carbed EJ18 engine and a fulltime 4wd box with push-button lockable centre diff, just like the late EA82s. And a 4.44 final drive. The contents of one of these boxes *might* be able to be retrofitted to an EA82 box, as another option. Then the 4.44 viscous LSD from an Auto turbo one would be perfect to complete the package. Hell, just swap the whole EJ engine as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanislru Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 To convert a d/r L/leone/ea82 series gear box you swap the r+p's tha't it. No center diff to mess with, the pinions are the same length. I'm not a 100% positive of this but I will find out in about 1 months time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadsubaruguy Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 i'd be willing to pay a grand for the 4.444 gears. i think it would make it all worth it.... i seem to remember someone saying something about having 4.444 gears in the d/r ea tranny would allow you to run at least 31's and it would be like driving on the original 13's gear wise..... that sounds good to me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanislru Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 More like 29's or 30's I worked out all the ratio's once and I think it worked out to 28.78" with 4.44's would be like stock 175/80/13's. Yeah a grand's not too much to pay for close to stock gearing IMO I jjust hope it works and I haven't gone through all the work for nothin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadsubaruguy Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 definatey keep us posted on this one...... if it works i might have to try it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrKrazy Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 More like 29's or 30's I worked out all the ratio's once and I think it worked out to 28.78" with 4.44's would be like stock 175/80/13's. Yeah a grand's not too much to pay for close to stock gearing IMO I jjust hope it works and I haven't gone through all the work for nothin. Alright now this is talking....subscribe for sure. Project Cheap really needs this. We gotta nail down if it's possible and how hard it is. I'm almosted tempted to save some cash for an extra d/r tranny and an EJ tranny just to see what's up. I would be willing to save up a G or so to get my gearing back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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