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Halegens to quad sealed beam?


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#1 soobme

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Posted 02 October 2003 - 01:45 PM

Has any one done the swap? This would be on my '85 Turbo wagon. I know what parts I would need ( I think any way ) but I was just wondering if they will bolt on in place of the hals.:eh:

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Posted 02 October 2003 - 04:23 PM

I was going to do this mod on my 86 wagon but changed my mind (procrastination more than anything else). What you need is to go to a wrecking yard and get the entire lamp housing for both sides off a DL wagon along with the receptacles for the sealed beam units. After that it's just a matter of installing the new housings and rewiring the headlamps to accept the extra sealed beam units. I sold my pieces to baccaruda and you might ask him how it went. I think I might still have another set of dl housings if you need them.

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Posted 02 October 2003 - 06:09 PM

dont you mean composites to sealed beam because sealed beam lamps come in halogen style.

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Posted 03 October 2003 - 12:03 AM

yes, he means composite singles to sealed quads.

That thing Ed said about procrastination? It's true. I haven't put them in yet either :moon:

My excuse is that I don't have the wiring figured out. My excuse for THAT is that I haven't taken the time yet. My excuse for THAT is that it's too hard. My excuse for THAT is that I'm full of crap. And THAT I have no excuse for :brow:

I think you DID have a second set, Ed.

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Posted 03 October 2003 - 12:34 AM

Hey Tony, gimme a week and a blank check! Why go with the over done square beams, when you can have quad rounds, 4 low and 4 highs, nothing like em, the only thing better is HID's. Now if I'll ever get around to aiming them :confused:

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Posted 03 October 2003 - 06:20 AM

Hi everyone. Sorry if this question is obvious or anything, but I've never had the different Sooby generations side by side to compare...

I had an 83 Touring wagon in the past with the quad sealed-beam headlights.

Now I've got a 90 GL wagon with these sort of 12" wide flashy, built-in headlights. Are the quad headlights somehow a direct swap in?

How about these round headlights you mention Adam?

....at present I have 4x IPF rectangle sealed-beam upgrades that seem somewhat superseded. :(

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Posted 03 October 2003 - 07:37 AM

Does anyone have pix of the different headlight configurations? It's very confusing because Subaru used probably every possible arrangement.
It would also make a great reference for identifying different year models.
...and BTW, it's not "hid" lights, it's "haid" lights.
(ignernt, ya'll cain't even talk good.)
jk,Adam!
I love the rectangular quads on FERTHER. I like to have the psngr side hi- beam a little hi and wide. It's good for spotting 'possums, uh, I mean street signs.

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Posted 03 October 2003 - 07:45 AM

Sorry for spoiling any possible joke, but I think that "HID lights" was referring to those High Intencity Discharge lights...
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Posted 03 October 2003 - 07:54 AM

This is a really easy swap to do... I did the reverse on my DL last year. You need to get the sealed beam lights and frame that holds them, the wiring for each light, the side marker lights and wiring for them, and the little tabs that attach to each side of the grille (optional).

The headlights will bolt right on. You need to chop and splice the wiring harnesses though. The low beams have the same color wires, just a different plug. For the high beams, you'll need to find the power wire for it and splice in. Far as I know the GL's don't have a lead for it.

For the side markers- when you pull them off the car, you'll notice a little plastic square that the lower screw screws into. There's a square hole right next to it. You need to pop it out of it's hole and move it into the other one. One of the lights in the marker also has a different kind of bulb, I forget which car has the bigger one. Whichever it is, you'll need to chop and splice that one too.

For the little tabs on the grille- these were added to the DL to fill the hole between the high beam and the grille. You don't NEED them, but they're cool to have. They mount with 2 screws each on the back of the grille.


And as they say in Germany... Das ist alles.

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Posted 03 October 2003 - 08:37 AM

I'm still confused as to what models you can get these parts from? all the wagons after about '86 that I've seen have a single headlight reflector on either side of the grill?

trogdor: I can see on this page http://fourdoorser.t....com/kanga.html you have done the conversion to Kanga :-)

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Posted 03 October 2003 - 09:46 AM

Here's what models will interchange-

1985-1994 GL, GL-10, RX, and Loyale - big single lights
1985-1989 DL - quad lights

This applies to the sedan, wagon, and 3 door of course.

The hatches and Brats and older models with quad lights do not interchange with the later models.

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Posted 03 October 2003 - 10:41 AM

Thanks Trogdor...

Not to worry, but all the 86+ basic wagons that I've seen have the big single lights. I'll have a chat to my local sooby 'dismantler' and see if he has seen them...

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Posted 03 October 2003 - 12:53 PM

I don't have a grill any more, so I don't have to wory about that. The wireing will be a snap, I'm good with that stuff. The side markers, I'm glad somone said somthing about those, I wouldn't have thought of that.
Do the low beam lamps have a "High" and "Low" element in them, or just a "Low"? I'm thinkin' if they have dual elements in the low beam lamps, I can use 4 low beam lamps and just put them on a relay and kick on all 8 elements when I need extra light!:D

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Posted 03 October 2003 - 07:08 PM

As mentioned, I've used the IPF headlight upgrade (90w/145w).
I can't comment on lower wattage globes, but when I tried operating both the low and high beam elements in a single globe it blew!
I'm sure 145w x 4 is enough anyway... :bday:




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