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#1 Vanislru

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Posted 07 December 2005 - 02:15 PM

$700 usd, from Rallispec. I've got another d/r lined up thanks to Island Roo so once they arrive we'll see if it can be done.

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Posted 07 December 2005 - 03:04 PM

sweet, keep us posted!!!!!!

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Posted 07 December 2005 - 03:12 PM

If you can do it, you are a god!

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Posted 07 December 2005 - 03:21 PM

Ooohhh so very cool.Sweetness!:slobber:

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Posted 07 December 2005 - 03:32 PM

I am glad to see you take the plunge.:brow: AWESOME

#6 Rollie715

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Posted 07 December 2005 - 04:04 PM

If I may show my ignorance, what is a 4.44?
Is that a diff gear ratio?

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Posted 07 December 2005 - 04:57 PM

If I may show my ignorance, what is a 4.44?
Is that a diff gear ratio?

Rollie


Yep, stock D/R trans uses a 3.90 final gear ratio, and if someone could find a way to put 4.44s in a D/R case, THEY WOULD BE A GOD, AND I WOULD WORSHIP THEM FOREVER!!!!!

I think someone did the math, and 4.44's would allow for ~29" tires with the same gearing as 3.90s and 22s....

it'd be like having stock drivetrain, with the clearance of 29s!!!!!!

I'm SOOOO HAPPY!!!!


sorry...

#8 Subarutex

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Posted 07 December 2005 - 04:59 PM

Wow. High roller Big baller. Good Luck.

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Posted 07 December 2005 - 05:18 PM

anything i can help with! so that might make me gods evil hench man? what type of car are the gears fromi mean a specific Subaru, like a WRX, or specifically cut for the EA82 trans? hows the research on the EJ22T going?

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Posted 07 December 2005 - 08:42 PM

They're from some EJ tranny. Not sure which one.

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Posted 08 December 2005 - 12:27 AM

I hope it all works, if it doesn't then I'll piece the d/r back together and hawk the gears on e-bay or something. After the cost of shipping and reselling I might lose a couple hun. but I've DREAMED about better gears for too long.
As far as I understand these are from Japan. Several models of JDM(and a few US cars too) Subaru's use them. Mark(Island Roo) I probly won't get started until mid Jan or later shipping from Japan to US then to Canada at this time of year can't be all that fast, they did figure on 1 month or less tho, but I'd appreciate any help I can get.

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Posted 08 December 2005 - 01:37 AM

I think I creamed my pants when I read 4.44 final drive ratio :slobber: .. thats better than my jeep... if you need any help at all what so ever... OMFG I WANNA HELP... too bad you're so far away. please keep us all posted as you gather information, and your plans/hopes for this project. my uncle has a used transmission shop, I'm wondering what all would go into something like this, cause over the winter break, if i get motivated and have a fairly good idea of what i'm looking for, I might just go through all my uncles crap and mix and match and see what works... he has a LOT of parts just sitting around...

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Posted 08 December 2005 - 01:55 PM

i'd be interested in hose gears if they dont fit... i got a legacy that needs shorter gears..... 4.44's would do the trick....

#14 Vanislru

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Posted 08 December 2005 - 03:13 PM

My legacy has a pretty low 1st as is (92 turbo 3.90 final) are you doing autocross or something?

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Posted 09 December 2005 - 09:21 AM

more like rally cross setup.. im running the outback struts with lift springs soon to be installed, and im running kumho venture m/t 27-8.50/14 tires.... the gearing has gone south a wee bit.... need to get the acceleration back..... hopefully the motor i plan on putting together for it will help some as well...:brow:

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Posted 10 December 2005 - 01:19 PM

SCWEET!!! :banana:

So .... help the guy with the "moding for dummies" book :D

To do this you have to change the gears in the trany AND the diff? so then you have to get annother LSD diff in my case that is a 4.44? or are you doing some other kind of set-up?

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Posted 10 December 2005 - 03:07 PM

Yes you have to change both, but you keep the gears from the trannie it's only the ring and pinion that have to to be swapped. A fair bit of aluminum removal too with the trannie and the rear diff. All I know about it so far is from reading up on few different forums and rally sites, it'll be I while before I can post pics and have any sort of write up.

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Posted 10 December 2005 - 03:27 PM

Yes you have to change both, but you keep the gears from the trannie it's only the ring and pinion that have to to be swapped. A fair bit of aluminum removal too with the trannie and the rear diff. All I know about it so far is from reading up on few different forums and rally sites, it'll be I while before I can post pics and have any sort of write up.


Ok, so are you using the stock ea81 tranny case or are you having to use a AWD case?

And is $700 so far the total expense?

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Posted 10 December 2005 - 03:43 PM

flyboy....it's the front diff....which is in the tranny case.

and I think $700 is just for the 4.44 front gearset, probably not including the stuff for the rear.

and I bet he's using his EA82 tranny

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Posted 10 December 2005 - 08:10 PM

I could help with the machine work

#21 Vanislru

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Posted 10 December 2005 - 09:24 PM

ea82 d/r trannie, 700 usd is the price for both r+p front and rear.

#22 Island Roo

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Posted 10 December 2005 - 09:32 PM

picked up the black wagon tonite, went to get the other car turned out to be a EA81 in an 82 hatch but had excavator marks in the body so left it there

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Posted 11 December 2005 - 02:19 AM

are they here yet are they here yet?! :banana: :banana:

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Posted 02 January 2006 - 11:25 AM

Vanislru.....

I've researched this extensively myself as well....Here is what i've found out...

the 2WD Hi-Lo 5speed trany is Not going to allow the 4:44 gear set to marry in as it sits stock...The Pinion shaft bearings sit in different enough locations that EXTENSIVE re-constructive surgury( welding of case,machining of case ) will have to take place....then the other MAJOR issue is the length of the pinion shaft is set up for an AWD model tranny, so it is roughly 50mm longer/shorter than the Hi-Lo trans.....I can't remember......So the tail end of the Hi-Lo box won't marry to it either....

I have talked Person to person with A guy who back in 93-94 Did a 4:11 swap into an RX AWD hi-lo tranny...And in order for that swap to happen he had to use the tail section of the AWD 4:11 trans, and LOSE the center diff Lock that was in the RX tranny.....

I Sincerly hope your Machine Shop guy has a Magic Wand....and can make this Happen....I would Love to see it :D

I have been wanting to post to this for you to have more first hand info, but HAve been Oh so Super busy...:(

Today's the first chance I've had to sit and breath in months....

Hope this brought a bit more insight into your endevor...... :confused:

John in Oregon......

#25 Vanislru

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Posted 03 January 2006 - 01:43 AM

Yeah, I'm pretty confident some major reworking will have to be done too. As long as I don't screw the R+P's trying to do it then I'll only have messed a d/r trannie, that's really cheap.

Now that the Christmas shipping gong show is over I hope to see those R+P's soon.
I want to make it happen. If it takes alot of time so be it. $$$ too well... I just hope It's not too bad and it becomes something that others can do too.




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