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#26 nipper

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Posted 27 December 2005 - 11:43 AM

ok, i read a bullitin on the all wheel tire drive issue and it stated that there can't be anymore then a 0.05 % difference in diameter all the way around your vehicle otherwise you will put a strain on your drivetrain in all wheel drive mode and risk damage.this bullitin was explaining the differences of selective 4wd, full time 4wd and all wheel drive.


in english :lol: :) its no more then 1/4" circumfrence diffenrce between tires as per subaru. :) For instance lets say the circumfrence is 100" no tire can be less then 99 7/8 and 100 1/8 inches

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Posted 28 December 2005 - 01:01 PM

I have no personal experience with Kumho tires. Did you read all the reviews? Some reviewers apparently aren't happy with wet/snow performance, while others complained about poor tread life. Those complaints did seem to be in the minority, but obviously "YMMV" is literally the case. BTW, Kumho apparently also sells under the "Marshal" brand name, and the company used to be known as Samyang; perhaps knowing that can help in making a decision.


Sorry my good man, I don't know what you are inferring. Have these been traditionally "crap" tires?

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Posted 28 December 2005 - 01:13 PM

UPDATE:

Talked to "Shawn" this morning. These $40 tires will wind up costing me $62 installed/ordered through Big O (via TireRack.com). However, I would NOT be getting $40/tire credit (apparently that was only for the Big O Aspen Tire), and if I purchased the Kumho's through Big O (Not directly from TR.Com) I would NOT be able to get the road hazard on them.

As you can see, this has quickly gone from bad to worse.

Bottom line... Judging by the pics, would I be putting my transfer case in jeopardy by simply purchasing a new matching replacement???

I already had the one kid say I "ought to be fine". However....

Please help guide me in the right direction. Personal experiences are greatly appreciated.

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Posted 28 December 2005 - 01:28 PM

Sorry my good man, I don't know what you are inferring. Have these been traditionally "crap" tires?

I wasn't "inferring" anything. I was providing a bit more data so that you might be better able to draw your own conclusions.

Bottom line... Judging by the pics, would I be putting my transfer case in jeopardy by simply purchasing a new matching replacement???

Please help guide me in the right direction. Personal experiences are greatly appreciated.

If you are concerned about the size difference, have you considered having the replacement tire shaved? You could have it reduced to the same size as or as much as 1/4" larger than the tire you intend to use as it's axle-mate. Obviously, you'd throw away some of the shaved tire's tread life, but you wouldn't have to buy 3 other tires right now or be concerned about the possible damage to the drive train.

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Posted 28 December 2005 - 01:34 PM

I wasn't "inferring" anything. I was providing a bit more data so that you might be better able to draw your own conclusions.

If you are concerned about the size difference, have you considered having the replacement tire shaved? You could have it reduced to the same size as or as much as 1/4" larger than the tire you intend to use as it's axle-mate. Obviously, you'd throw away some of the shaved tire's tread life, but you wouldn't have to buy 3 other tires right now or be concerned about the possible damage to the drive train.


So, if you were in my position, you would...

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Posted 28 December 2005 - 01:49 PM

So, if you were in my position, you would...

I'd click on this link http://www.tirerack....e.jsp?techid=18 , read the page (especially the section headed "Matching Tires By Shaving Them to Maintain Equivalent Tire Tread Depths"), and make up my own mind. BTW, I'm not avoiding the issue; the "safe" approach is to closely match the sizes. Obviously, you can gamble on not doing that, and maybe win. Sorry, but I am not going to take sides beyond what I've already said on this one!

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Posted 28 December 2005 - 01:50 PM

I agree about shaving a new tire to the proper size. This will cost you less and you can get the rest of the value out of your current tires. Then you can start saving your money to replace all of them when they are ready to be replaced. Along with getting the road hazard policy. Costco provides a policy when you purchase tires from them.

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Posted 28 December 2005 - 02:06 PM

I'd click on this link http://www.tirerack....e.jsp?techid=18 , read the page (especially the section headed "Matching Tires By Shaving Them to Maintain Equivalent Tire Tread Depths"), and make up my own mind. BTW, I'm not avoiding the issue; the "safe" approach is to closely match the sizes. Obviously, you can gamble on not doing that, and maybe win. Sorry, but I am not going to take sides beyond what I've already said on this one!


Just talked to Big O. They, nor do they know of anyone, who still shaves tires. Liability issue.

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Posted 28 December 2005 - 02:38 PM

Just talked to Big O. They, nor do they know of anyone, who still shaves tires. Liability issue.

I can't tell you for certain that there are still places that do it, but it might be worth making a few more calls. I'd expect race shops to still be doing this kind of work, since reducing tread to make "semi-slicks" is (was?) popular. If you do find one, you should probably ask them if they see any risk in shaving a street tire for size-matching purposes.

EDIT: I looked on Google, and found the place listed below. I know NOTHING about them. Perhaps they can help, perhaps not. Might be worth a call.

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Speed Shop

9491 W 44TH Ave Ste 102
Wheat Rdg, CO 80033-2900
(303) 232-3774
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Best of luck.

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Posted 28 December 2005 - 03:41 PM

I can't tell you for certain that there are still places that do it, but it might be worth making a few more calls. I'd expect race shops to still be doing this kind of work, since reducing tread to make "semi-slicks" is (was?) popular. If you do find one, you should probably ask them if they see any risk in shaving a street tire for size-matching purposes.

EDIT: I looked on Google, and found the place listed below. I know NOTHING about them. Perhaps they can help, perhaps not. Might be worth a call.

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Speed Shop

9491 W 44TH Ave Ste 102
Wheat Rdg, CO 80033-2900
(303) 232-3774
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Best of luck.



Thanks man. I think I am going to try to get Big O to replace the other 3 under warranty since I have only had them 7 months, 18K miles, and they show 1/8" of tread on the edges. This is ridiculous. I checked the warranty on the BFG website, and the warranty is for 70,000 miles, or SIX YEARS!!! This is mind-numbing, I'm going to go to the store I got them at and see if they'll replace the 3 and I'll buy the one.

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Posted 28 December 2005 - 04:51 PM

Thanks man. I think I am going to try to get Big O to replace the other 3 under warranty since I have only had them 7 months, 18K miles, and they show 1/8" of tread on the edges.

If they're all down to 1/8" near the shoulders, by all means try to get them replaced. I hope whomever decides warranty issues will see the situation from your perspective.

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Posted 28 December 2005 - 10:57 PM

I still think most of you worry way to much on this tire issue, if I had to find a barber shop to get a shave for my tires, I would be looking for a different car to drive. Put the one with the most tread on the front, it wears faster it will soon match. If the car tears up then you can get a car that you can use. My Subaru is high mileage and the tires I have now are about half wore out but if ones blows tomorrow Iam buying a new tire, just one.




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