Snowman Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Bard, Am I understanding that you are referring to the door unlocking itself when you close it? As far as I know, the front doors do that but not the rears, and you can keep the door locked when closing it by holding the outside handle open. At least that's how all four of mine are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowmastered87GL Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Originally posted by Martin the locations for the front wiper sprayer is on the hood for loyales and just under the hood on gl's True... but they actually changed the sprayers in 88. My 87 has em hidden and the 88 had them on the hood. I am not sure to what vehicles this applies to, but all my GL's and GL-10's have had center consoles and shifter surrounds. Ive seen manual loyales with the shifter coming straight out of the carpet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaroonDuneDoom Posted October 9, 2003 Author Share Posted October 9, 2003 i can play w/my driver's lock all day and it won't unlock the others. do you think it's wires or a fuse or something. what should i check? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowmastered87GL Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Originally posted by Hondasucks The rear windows on the Loyales were held in with a rubber gasket, whereas the GL had them glued in with urethane, just like the windsheild. Anyone care to post some front bumper pics showing the differences? Here is a pic of my 87 Turbowagon, but if you look, you will see that it has a Loyale front bumper and a Loyale hatch.... Need to find a junkyard willing to trade, so my car looks "right" and my rear def. and power gate latch work! He he your wagon looks so funny with 4 lugs. My list of changes: 1985 New generation... 1986 Different rear hatch emblem, different seat upolstry (less vinyl than 85), different side view mirrors (no longer door mounted, they now mount on little triangle at front of window) Different D/R shifter (changes from shape to the kind of S shape of later years with an actual KNOB on the end) 1987 Different bumpers and grille and side markers, thicker black side moldings. Interior illumination changed from orange to green (so the digidash changed too) new steering wheel, new upolstry pattern, reconfigured dash controls (van control, wipers, headlights.... HVAC buttons) 1988 Steering Wheel changed, wiper nozzels moved, new headliner and so on.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 The GL's if they had a manual 4wd were all dual range. the DL's had the pushbutton 5 speed, single range. Nope. My S/R, pushbutton 4wd tranny is out of a GL-10(definitely not a DL). I also know that Turbones turbo wagon has the factory S/R Pushbutton 4wd tranny in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XSNRG Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Calebz, that's true for most turbo cars... A couple other things I didn't see mentioned, GL's had: electric mirrors chrome strip on side moulding and bumpers Loyales didn't standard I would call the Loyale a DL with a tach Loyales were available with the full time trans in '90 and maybe '91, 4 speed auto with turbo Not all Loyales had auto seatbelts or high consoles Some '85/'86 cars had painted bumpers, GL-10 2wd Most Gl/ Loyale body parts and lights will interchange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Originally posted by Martin the locations for the front wiper sprayer is on the hood for loyales and just under the hood on gl's they started the ones IN the hood in 88, on a gl sedan i have seen tge one and only 90 loyale i have seen didnt have as much body trim as usual on gl, and it had a single range 5spd on an spfi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Originally posted by the_bard I'll throw in a fourth thumb for the power locks... the driver's door lock controls all five doors. Lock it, and it locks everybody's. Unlock it, and it unlocks everybody's. I find it really funny that I can open the door, lock it, shut the door, and then open it... I need to physically lock the door from the outside to prevent the door from being opened. if you hold the door handle up while closing the door, it will remain locked, if not, it unlocks. its an anti lockout feature commonly found on many japanese cars for the era. try it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 if your power locks arent' working, you might want to check the fuse to see if it's burnt out. and the handle holding feature is nice so you dont lock yourself out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bard Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 I'll try that handle holding idea next time I go out... though I'm rather fond of having to actually turn the key to lock it. I don't have to worry about locking the key in the car... and somehow I doubt I have to worry about anybody attempting to car jack me (a rusted out Loyale just doesn't look fast, ya know? At least there's a silver lining to that cloud ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Yeah, I'm with you. I got used to having to use the key after years of driving saabs, and old A-body dodges before that.. you can't them without using the key from the outside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XSNRG Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 '85 and '86 wagons have a seperate lock for the gate on the dash panel:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondasucks Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 "I find it really funny that I can open the door, lock it, shut the door, and then open it... I need to physically lock the door from the outside to prevent the door from being opened." Hold up on the door handle as you close teh door, then it will lock. It's a safety feature to prevent you from locking your keys in your car. Although you can close the door and lock it with the key, and the rest of the doors will lock with it. The hatch is supposed to work off the power locks 87 and newer, but for some reason my gate latch does not lock with the doors, but I think it's cuz someone put a Loyale hatch on it. I know it has the solenoid for the lock since I've pulled back the trim panel and I can see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROGDOR! Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Originally posted by Hondasucks The hatch is supposed to work off the power locks 87 and newer, but for some reason my gate latch does not lock with the doors, but I think it's cuz someone put a Loyale hatch on it. The rear gate locks with the doors on my 92 Loyale. You could have a bad lock solenoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondasucks Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Yeah, but my rear defroster does not work either, so I suspect some wiring changes from 87 to whatever year Loyale my hatch is off of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bard Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 Here's what's on my '92 Loyale... don't know what's standard, and what's an option, though. 5 speed, single range, pushbutton 4wd manual transmission Fuel injected Black bumpers Automatic seatbelts Power locks Power windows Power mirrors No front map light (Grrrr...) No rear cargo light (Anybody dug around a box for tools without a cargo light? Not fun) No rear speakers Center top brake light Recessed turn signals in the front bumper Washer nozzles on the top of the hood Wiper on the rear window (I love that) Tachometer I think those are all the differences that have been noted here... I've never physically seen a GL before, so it's hard to tell anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asavage Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 When I bought it, my '93 Loyale Wgn had the gate power lock harness disconnected in the gate, and the trim panel was loose. When I plugged the power lock back in, I found out why: on the wagon, that mechanism is NOT a solenoid, it's a motor with an output like a wiper motor. Mine had a stripped worm gear inside, so the limit switches inside it never shut the motor off, it would run all the time. It also didn't lock/unlock, of course. I bought a used one at a yard ($35, nothing's cheap in the sticks), two bolts and new trim panel clips, all done. Having the locksmith make the manual key lock work back there was a lot more work - -he worked on it for over a half hour (I watched) and charged me only $25, which was a steal for the work involved. He had the new chrome trim plates, too, so it all looks like new now, and the key still matches the rest of the car. He also had some of the black trim plates (for GLs?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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