mydogfergus Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 On about 3 or 4 recent occasions, after driving just a few miles (under 3) my 95 legacy will turn over but not start. I tried flooring the pedal, and waiting a few minutes, with no luck. But if I wait about 10 minutes it will start up. General start up does seem to be a tad longer than before this issue started. Also last time this happened, after it started and I drove about 1 + miles it stalled at a red light when I put the car in park (waiting on a long red light) - but is started up within 2 minutes then. Any thoughts/suggestions on this. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAWalker Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 Check engine light on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frag Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 According to my experience (same symptoms) it could be the coolant temp sensor (tells the Ecu the engine is cold when in fact it's hot) and according to others here (also same symptoms) it could be the crank or cam position sensors.l Usually, when it's the temp sensor, flooring the gas pedal will give you a start. Since that is not happening maybe it's one of the other two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydogfergus Posted October 14, 2003 Author Share Posted October 14, 2003 The check engine light came on but then went off after a few days (awhile ago) the second time this non start problem happened. Right now it is on, since this last issued just happened sunday. Regarding the cam and crank sensors - are these two different sensors? I was able to locate the camshaft sensor, but did not know a crank sensor exists. As far as the coolant sensor - the book I have did not really show a good picture of it, only where it is located. Might any one know if it is similar in looks to an oil sensor that just screws into the engine. I believe I see this type of unit and it faces up in the engine just tucked next to/under the left manifolds. Thanks for any helo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frag Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 They are two different sensors but the parts are almost identical. The crank sensor is just under the alternator (or not far) on the same plane with the cam sensor. You're right about the temp sensor, under the left manifold (looking at the car from the front) and screwing towards the front of the engine. A few wires and vac tubes to disconnect or push aside. Not a very pleasant location. Since the three of them are cheap and since your car is a 95, it would be a good idea to replace them all. I replaced the temp sensor when it acted up but replaced also the crank and cam sensors as preventive maintenance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydogfergus Posted October 14, 2003 Author Share Posted October 14, 2003 Thanks Frag, The temp sensor you describe must be the other thing under the manifold but above the engine. It sure does not look like it is easy to get at, at all. That thing had the items you noted, tubes and stuff like that. Maybe the thing I thought was the sensor is the heating tempature guage connection. It just had one wire coming out the top and then had a "bolt type" look to it to take a rachet and screw it out. Off to look for the crank sensor when I get home!!! Thanks again, and I trust you are a Canadians Fan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frag Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Thanks again, and I trust you are a Canadians Fan! Yes! and at the moment I'm typing this they're beating Washington 5 to 1 in Montreal. Hope they dont collapse in third If you have trouble finding the temp sensor, report back and l'll give you more precise infos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydogfergus Posted October 15, 2003 Author Share Posted October 15, 2003 Thanks, for the help. I should not have a problem finding the parts. Saw where the crank sensor is located - easy to get at. Even though I live in Long Island I have been (for over 30 years) a Maple Leaf fan, but always get to cheer on Montreal as they have made it to the Cup Finals a lot more. And I still play the game (goalie) wearing a 28 year old fibreglass mask I made !!! Played last night against a bunch of mid twenty year olds lost 5-1. I'll keep you posted on the car situation in a few weeks after a business trip - thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richierich Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 It is the cam and crank angle sensors. If it is stopping the car from running you should get them fixed as soon as possible. The parts are not expensive and not very hard to replace. They were probably the ones that were recalled. Though I think you missed the recall. Richie SIR, Inc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydogfergus Posted October 16, 2003 Author Share Posted October 16, 2003 Thanks, I know there is a recall out on the Alternator - per direct contact from Subaru, but was not aware of these little parts. Might you know where I can find out about other recalls on the 95 model (Other than the front end coil spring protectors and some tow hooks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef_tim Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 Just got this thread on a "search". It was indeed the one wire I didn't get connected. I would not have found it with out this thread. Now I need to figure out how to get my big hands down in there!!!! Many thanks again, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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