Sweet82 Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 The Buggy is getting to the point of needing rear shocks. I'm ready to fabricate the shock mounts.........but........ I need to know how much suspension travel that a stock EA81 Hatch rear end... :moon: is capable of? Whats anyone running in the shock department? Thanks, Glenn, 82 Hatch, wasn't ready for Moab last weekend and had to stay home 01 Forester, went to Moab earlier this year. :wave: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike W Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 EA81 Hatchback with 3" BYB lift. I've got shocks spec'ed for a FJ60 Landcruiser. They allow an extra 2-3" of travel. I was hyperextending the rear axles but hopefully that will stop now that I'm running the extra-stretchy Rguyver mod axles. (That means means later model EA82 rear axle stretch joints on both ends of my EA81 axle shafts.) Seems to work so far but only time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelyDel Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 To determine the suspension travel you have to measure at the stub axle centerline in the relax mode and bring it up 'til it hits the bump stop that will give you the total travel. Set the car on jackstand with tire off and let the suspension drop (relax) and bring the arm up. It's difficult when you have the torsion bar fighting the up travel. Maybe you can make something that pivots and parralel to the arm and raise it up and down to get some measurements. Also I think the shock is holding the arm on the downward travel so you might have to take it off to get the full drop. In short, I don't know the exact travel of the Subaru rear suspension. I hope this helps, DEL Hi there Mike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushbasher Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 a standard ea82 rear coilover has around 5.5/6" of travel at the shock, so somewhere around. If you let the suspension travel up (from the point were the axle is horizontal) as much as it normally travels down, I measured a 8" shock possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet82 Posted October 21, 2003 Author Share Posted October 21, 2003 I don't have any shocks on now so nothing is limiting my downward travel for measuring. However once up and running, If I need to put a limiting strap on, I can do that but I just figured, I'd get a shock longer than what the travel would be so I wouldn't pull my shocks apart. The problem I'm up against is compression of the shock, if I jack up one rear wheel the other side just lifts up. The Buggy is too light to compress it's own suspension. I can lift it with one hand:eek: I then tried jacking up a front wheel to force the opposite rear down. I came up with around a 6" compression but I don't know if this is the maximum allowable travel?:cornfuzz: Another problem I'm worried about is if it finishes out real light a standard shock may be too stiff for such a light buggy? Still looking for suggestions, Glenn 82 Hatch? well sort of... 01 Forester! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 the rx has 3 inches of suspension lift. we simplt made extensions for the coilover(you could use longer coilovers.) the only bind on the lower control arm was that on the bushings. if you loosen the bolts up the bushings will relax to that posture. we dropped the mustache bar the same amount to keep the axles relative to the hub an diff, just like they were. also a 2 inch drop shackle on the diff mount, to keep the ujoints from binding. its all real simple to do if tou get under there and take a look for your contemplations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet82 Posted October 21, 2003 Author Share Posted October 21, 2003 I don't have a drive line or axles in at the moment. I don't want to put my axles back in just for this travel issue? I was hoping someone would just know what the travel was with out having to install the axle. I am planning on having the diff/hanger bar at about a 6 degree forward slope. Does the diff have to be level? I can build the hanger to any position. Thanks, Glenn 82 Hatch, well sort of....... 01 Forester! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 on an ea81, it will drop down as far as the torsion bar will allow. on an ea82, all the wight is held by the coil sprin/strut, so with out that it could drop down all the wat to almost 90 degrees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbrat Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Mike, did you have your torsion bar tweaked as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByTheSea Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 "The problem I'm up against is compression of the shock, if I jack up one rear wheel the other side just lifts up. The Buggy is too light to compress it's own suspension. I can lift it with one hand:eek: " Maybe look into the idea of cross linked air shocks combined with some motorcycle coil-overs if it's really that light. When you compress one side it causes the pressure in the other to rise keeping that wheel down on the ground. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet82 Posted June 16, 2004 Author Share Posted June 16, 2004 Bythesea, This was an old thread, I have since resolved my suspension issues. FYI I used BugPac coilovers in the rear. I currently have the coils off the shocks because the old torsion bar seems to support the buggy just fine. If I find I need more lift or whatever I can always put the coils back on. Last weekend Harpua and I "ramp tested" the buggy. We were able to get it around "16 off before the rear came off. Glenn, 82 SubaruHummer 01 Forester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbrat Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 I brought this back up, as I've been doing research on shocks, travel, and looking at options, and saw the piece about the double slip joint rear axles.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushbasher Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 I need info on the double slip axles as well, namely, how do you get the non-slip joint off the outside so you can put a slip joint on the end?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Basher - this thread is all EA81 specific - your stuff is different. Sorry. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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