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#1 Tom63050

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Posted 23 October 2003 - 11:25 PM

I'm looking to install better seats than the stock ones. At 5'11" I find the stock seats don't go back far enough on my 84 wagon, so my butt does all the support work rather than spreading the load over the lower thighs. Tiring on longer trips.

Two questions:
Can I just relocate the stock frame rails farther back somehow to get the stock seats to go back farther?

If not, what are better seats to install? Either using the stock EA81 frame rails or maybe an easy mod. I don't have welding skills or access to a person who does.

Thanks.

#2 GLCraig

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Posted 23 October 2003 - 11:33 PM

relocating the rails isn't really a possibilty, you'll see why when you take a seat out. Now you could relocate the seats on the rails.

#3 Tom63050

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Posted 23 October 2003 - 11:52 PM

So...how do you relocate the seats on the rails? Or would it be really obvious by just looking at them?

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 12:28 AM

Some people on the board have replaced their EA81 seats with XT or EA82 GL/GL-10 seats with good results. You have to install the EA82 seat rails, though, and install spacers (EA82 rails are narrower). Check the archive for details. A set of front seats from a GL shouldn't cost more than $40 from a yard. GL10 seats also have adjustable headrests and height controls.

#5 Tom63050

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 01:12 AM

Great reply, Andrew! Just the info I needed, thanx.

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 01:16 AM

if your really lucky, you can find the bucket RX seats and do the same thing...Loyale seats arent bad either...

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 01:31 AM

GL-10 seats are all-velour and have the height adjust lumbar control and adjustable headrests. RX seats are somewhat firmer and they have vinyl inserts on the side bolsters--they look good but aren't too comfortable (IMHO) and don't wear well. (They crack in colder climates.) GL and Loyale seats are just about the same, velour with vinyl backs. DL seats have more vinyl and skimpy cloth inserts, and no adjustments except for reach. (Although I like the seat fabric on DLs best.)

#8 Adam N.D.J.

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 01:45 AM

I'm going to be going with a set of seats from a Toyota Supra, they are about the most comfortable seats I've ever sat in. And they have power everything on the seats, really nice. And when I get done installing them, they will go all the way back to the back seat (I don't carry passengers in the rear anyways, it's a rear storage area), although I can't touch the pedals that far back, it will be pretty nice. Now I jes need to get the seats out of the Supra.

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 08:19 AM

late 80s honda preludes had very nice seats. i know for sure that the ones with all wheel steering had the best ones you could get, and they fit in a brat, without too much welding. and they were black, and thats always good.

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 09:30 AM

Now, I had planned on doing this, but because the hatch isn't driving around (bad head gasket...) I haven't gotten to it.

you could get a longer bolt and some nuts, and place the nuts between the rail and the front end of the seat.

I was planning on maybe 1" or 1.5" of difference in the front. This might make it more comfortable.

And yeah, I second all mentions of XT, RX, or generically EA82 seats... there are some comfy ones.

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 10:53 AM

If you're into mcguyvering, the seats in the Tercel SR5 cashmachine cars look kinda nice. They're a couple inches wider than EA81's but might fit into a Loyale without too much grief.

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 10:55 AM

If not, what are better seats to install? Either using the stock EA81 frame rails or maybe an easy mod. I don't have welding skills or access to a person who does.



Tom, I could easily weld the rails to another seat for you. Just get your seats and well do it.

Here is my setup:

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 11:49 AM

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What seats are those?

I want some! :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo:

Just whining......
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01 Forester, has nice seats....:burnout:

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 12:09 PM

They are from Summit Racing and they are cut for regular 5 point or lap harnesses. They are very reasonable and super durable. Adapting the brackets is a 1 hour job.

http://store.summitr...art=SUM-CSUM101

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 01:41 PM

What about comfort?

Are Summit seats going to give you butt rott after an hour or so?:moon:

How is the comfort in relation to the stock seats?:cornfuzz:

I like those....

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 01:49 PM

With the welding help that you were just offered by Scott you can put just about any seat you want in there.

I have XT6 seats in my Brat but they don't tilt back far enough for my liking. The rear wall get's in the way(I'm 6'4") but I manage.

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 02:36 PM

They remind me ALLOT of late 70's vette seats. They lock you in tight and with the 5 point you really wear the truck and control is very very different when you are stationary. The padding is good and you can sit in them a long time. Getting in and out is not as easy as normal seats of course but so what. Just make sure you get the set because the frame is allot like stock BRAT bed mounted seats.

Oh, and they are REALLY weatherproof.

#18 Tom63050

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Posted 25 October 2003 - 11:15 AM

Thanx Scott (Subarubrat), I'll take you up on the welding job. It's a when-I-get-around-to-it priority.

Tom




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