johnd911 Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 I'm a regular poster here, My 93 legacy wagon just hit 328,000 without ever having the engine apart (just timing belt stuff). I DO NOT want a 2.5l, no way will they last this long without a bunch of head gaskets..... I've seen differing opinions on when the last 2.2 l legacy auto was made. An outback would be nice, but I keep all my subarus till over 300k and I don't think this head gasket stuff can be avoided with that kind of mileage (I drive 1000 miles a week). It seems that my choices are limited to a 95 legacy at the latest in order to get a 2.2l automatic. Is this correct? There are 96 and 97 brightons, but I don't think they are 2.2's. Am I correct in avoiding the 2.5's from 95 and 96 and 97? there are a bunch of Outbacks for under 6 grand in the autotrader web page, but I don't think they can hold a candle to my 93's reliablity. We are talking having it last to 400,000, which i have gotten on another 2.2 and am on my way with my current 93. AM I WRONG.... thanks I'm kinda leary about getting a pre 98 outback with 150,000 and under. this kind of mileage on a well kept 2.2 is nothing, at least with my experience. FEEDBACK please.. this 2.5 reliability vs. 2.2 reliability seems to have some substance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsr3177 Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 My wife has a '97 legacy L wagon with the 2.2 liter. She purchased it used a few years ago and is happy with it. No problems with it at 88,000 miles currently. I enjoy driving it as well. It handles differently than my '98 Outback. She does enjoy the little bit of extra power of the Outback when the need arises. She does have automatic in her legacy also. She got tired of the weak performance of our old Nissan 4x4 pickup. So at 248,000 miles she gave it up. That old truck never did burn oil and probably will run for a long time yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd911 Posted October 29, 2003 Author Share Posted October 29, 2003 you mean that there are still reliable 2.2's up to 97 (automatic, non outback, legacy wagons). I thought that the 2.5's took over. If i can still find a 97 with a 2.2, automatic and a wagon, I'll look as late as 97. there is an ebay dealer listing a 99 legacy wagon with a 2.2 that's an automatic. Was there such a thing? at least I know that I can look as late as 97. Anyone out there know for sure? thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hocrest Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 This site has all of the details on different model years. I have a 97 Legacy Sedan with a EJ22 and a 4 spd auto. By the end of the week I will have 170,000 on it. It is driven HARD everyday, and the only repair other than maintenance items has been an oil-pump replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd911 Posted October 29, 2003 Author Share Posted October 29, 2003 the site says that a 99 legacy has something called a phase II 2.2l. What the heck is that? is it as bulletproof as the previous 2.2's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 At least in Canada, Legacies that are not Outback or GT have the EJ22 engine until the MY99 included. From the MY2000, ALL of them have the EJ25 engine. Syd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setright Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Phase II has solid valve lifters, which need adjusting every 60k I believe. The US Postal service kept the Gen2 Legacy in production for up til about a year ago, but the steering wheel is on the wrong side - to help them get straight onto the sidewalk. Maybe they will be up for grabs soon? (Source CAR Magazine's GBU) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richierich Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 The phase II 2.2 should not have solid lifters. The phase II should have come out in 97. They have a redeigned intake that has an extra 5-10hp. The motor is just as reliable as the old 2.2 One note about the 99. In mid 99, they started putting the newer redesigned 2.5 in all the Legacys. You can get a old body style Legacy with the newer redesigned 2.5 (in Legacy and Outback models) So the only full year of 2.2 would be a 98. And I have owned a 98 Legacy 2.2 AWD Auto Wagon. I have also worked on one 99 2.2 Auto, and two 99 2.5 Autos. Richierich SIR, Inc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtate Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 I have a 97 OBS with a 2.2l, automatic with 139,000 miles. Other than piston slap, engine seems go to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnorton Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 This URL may give some insight to the changes in Subaru engines in 97. Check out the section Engine (9 items down). http://www.ravensblade-impreza.com/techdocs/pdf/pdf.html Originally posted by richierich The phase II 2.2 should not have solid lifters. The phase II should have come out in 97. They have a redeigned intake that has an extra 5-10hp. The motor is just as reliable as the old 2.2 One note about the 99. In mid 99, they started putting the newer redesigned 2.5 in all the Legacys. You can get a old body style Legacy with the newer redesigned 2.5 (in Legacy and Outback models) So the only full year of 2.2 would be a 98. And I have owned a 98 Legacy 2.2 AWD Auto Wagon. I have also worked on one 99 2.2 Auto, and two 99 2.5 Autos. Richierich SIR, Inc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Thank you mnorton! I learned a lot at that site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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