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1978 Turbo 1.8 Brat
Posted 28 October 2003 - 09:55 PM
the car looks stock, seems stock, until you hit the gas, hit your head on the glass behind you and all you can do is look behind you and laugh at the mustangs or ricers trying to keep up.
We took a 1991 Subaru GL-10 Wagon, 4x4 turbo motor, tranny, rear end , electronics, and of course the turbo. and strategically placed them in the brat, after a 3 day fight with the wiring from the wagon i got it down to just the motor and computer wiring and it all checked out and now the beast is running and tearing up the pavement.
If you are interested in this car, or a project like this, i will say cutting torch and welders are a must. and the know how ow willingness to learn as you go is a must.
I just took pictures of the brat as of two days ago. You can email me and i will send you some pictures. and yes the stock spare tire still fits under the hood.
Well sorry for the long post, but i will tell you this is alot shorter then the year it took to build the beast.
Posted 28 October 2003 - 10:31 PM
Someone else in North texas!!
You're right up the street from me!
I'm in McKinney near 121 and Lake Forest
on a side note.. there is no 91 GL-10.. last one was in 89..but the Loyale came in a turbo model in 90 and maybe 91.. but who cares.. an EA82T Brat! Cool!
Posted 28 October 2003 - 11:13 PM
both will be fast, but youll still lose to my wagon!!!
HAHAHA BEN, YOU GOT BEAT BY A WAGON!!! cant say that anymore can you?
Posted 29 October 2003 - 12:21 AM
Posted 29 October 2003 - 12:56 AM
The car was given to us by the guys daughter with the title, and keys. wow . ok of course getting it out from behind that barn was another story, Dodge truck wouldnt pull it out. took a farm tractor to get it to move. and a wench to get it on the hauler . then taken to my local shop where i worked on my project cars. other types of crazy builds for instance a 1987 Chrysler Conquest with a 302. but was to be origionally a Ford taurus SHO motor in it, but i sold the car and now he is going to put a 302 in it.
Anyways back to the brat, i will get some pics of it tomorrow, and will let all of you see them. just remember the car does need its body work, and paint done, and the interior done, but it is drivable as it is. just doesnt appeal very well. rust isnt an object with the car, and not really any dents except for the front spoiler pan, and the left bottom of the passenger fender. will be replaced.
For those of you in here wanting to talk to me abou the car, just call me at 214-387-0337 and i wll usually be here working on one car or another as i have a 1971 Firebird getting ready to go on the road tomorrow.
or you can email me at firstname.lastname@example.org
thanks again for the great board and hopefully we can all learn something from one another.
later guys and gals....
Posted 29 October 2003 - 01:31 AM
Posted 29 October 2003 - 01:36 AM
I set you up with an account at the gallery, login there and get some pix for us!!! Expecially pix of the engine bay.
Posted 29 October 2003 - 01:40 AM
Posted 29 October 2003 - 01:46 AM
Definetly want to see pictures of it.
Posted 29 October 2003 - 06:42 AM
yes do send pictures to the board folder in your name... or email me some..... too
Posted 29 October 2003 - 08:53 AM
Posted 29 October 2003 - 09:43 AM
Posted 29 October 2003 - 11:03 AM
i am going to help attempt a turbo swap into an spfi 4x4 wagon this weekend. i believe there is a lot of the wiring harness that has to be separated from the rest........
Posted 29 October 2003 - 11:32 AM
but i will tell you if you do decide to do something like this get ready for the biggest headache in your life cause you will be constantly but after a few you will begin to see the sunshine and open raods ahead, it took a year fro us to get the car out of the shop just owrking on it during weekends, and the ocasional all nighter.
enjoy the feel of the boost, just take plenty of vicodin, that rear window is closer than previously thought. and it doesnt move it hurts.
Posted 29 October 2003 - 11:44 AM
we put an ea82 carbbed motor into an 81 GLF hardtop. the motor fit without mods, and we drilled out the 2wd 5spd flywheel to mate with the ea82. some of the wiring we will have to figure out, switching to a distributor without the external wiring, and an internal regulator alternator. but some of the existing wiring so far includes house wiring with a plug in as a connector and a wall switch! fun little things like that to make the car interesting as it works.
one thing that still strikes my curiosity is the ea82 fitting between the (gen1)78 Brat framerail. my buddy wanted to put an ea82 in his 78 brat, and another guy said it wont fit in there without mods. so what was involved to actually shoehorn the motor in there?
and what are you running for suspensions. if i read right you are using ea82 ssupension pieces? i got ea82 parts in my 83 wagon, with some mods. i am interested in your design to compare!
Posted 29 October 2003 - 11:52 AM
if your handy with electronics
i been wanting to do that with a brat myself
if only i had a brat ,welder,cutting torch.ect ect
oh and a empty garage
Posted 29 October 2003 - 12:12 PM
And where did you find a Turbo car down here? I have seen very few of them here.. and the 4 that I know of (mine included) all came from out of state
I would love to have a look at your Brat. You going to be around this weekend?
Posted 29 October 2003 - 12:30 PM
as for the wiring situation, we wanted to make this happen using nothing but the parts we had from both cars, and the steel we came up with to make it happen, so it was using what we had, and making it strong, and durable. of course now that the motor mounts are made up of other peices, i will take them and make some out of some steel and maybe a hydraulic type mount used on nissans, or as they call them liquid filled. so the car wont have much drivetrain vibration as it has some now. from the almost solid mounts.
the wiring was used only cause i saw no purpose in spending money on something i had that i could make work, even if i used the whole harnnes and just hooked up all the lights and so on that way, but thought it would be better to not hurt the brat harness or frame and body to get this done, so that is why it is like a bolt in tied in situation, never know, someone may say i will give you a million dollars for that brat one day if i was to make it back to origional state, and i would just unbolt the motor tranny and rear pumpkin, and drop in the ea71 motor stuff, and hook it all back up and be done with it, noth that i will get that lucky.... but still. i wanted to be able to upgrade later, change, things, modify things, if i had to , and be able to do what i wanted to do.
so there it is in a nutshell. oh and my garage isnt empty, i have 2 -302 motors, two SHO motors, 99 350 vortec motor, hoist, engine stand, and a massive MAC Tools Macsimizer II tool box, top bottom, and side boxees, in my one car garage. toolbox stands 6 1/2 feet tall, 14 feet wide, and 3 1/2 feet deep. and full of goodys. backyard has a 95 lincoln geting a SHO motor, 87 Conquest getting a 302 bored .030 over, and some more goodies, and a 95 Pontiac Grand Prix, and a 1965 mustang coupe coming this weekend. going to get the other 302. no use for the 350 yet, how about in a brat.
oh yeah someone said suspension, its all brat suspension, and handles well, the only thing on the suspension i used from the wagon, was the hub on one front wheel direct fit, no mods there. the brats was stripped.
and CABLEBZ just call me, i will be around this weekend or during the week if you have time, and we can go let you check it out. im sure you wont be dissapointed....
later guys going to get more pics for you, i seem to have found a new drug, and you are all getting addicted to it. LOL
Posted 29 October 2003 - 12:51 PM
you know, if an EA82T will work in there, odds are an EJ20T will as well...
Posted 29 October 2003 - 03:46 PM
Posted 29 October 2003 - 04:59 PM
Any idea if the Gen 1 master cylinder would fit a Gen 2? Disty is really tight to the MC in my '82. Guess I really should ask if the Gen 1's are a dual system or not. So are they?
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