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Posted 22 July 2003 - 04:10 PM
The dealer recommended I call SUBARU and see what they could do for me....probably not much!
Is this normal to break the crankshaft at such mileage and that it requires a whole new motor?
They told me that it could be a few days to a few weeks before it seizes...I have a road trip planned for next week........new 2004 subbie...thinking about it!
Here are the symptoms
When in neutral and I slowly give it some gas I eventually get a clattering noise like the dreaded piston slap but much louder and harder
If also does it when I floor it from a stopped position. It also does it on the highway usually starting at 90 km/h at a certain rpm.... when it makes the noise and I let go on the gas pedal it stop.
I listened to it under the hood when someone slowly gave it some gas and it seems to come from the top of the engine... almost like a clicking/slaping sound.
The car run fine, except for the noise!
I have a 97 legacy gt with 97,000 KM
Posted 22 July 2003 - 04:23 PM
A broken piston or a rod bearing going maybe.
Regardless it is time for a teardown by a competent mechanic.
Posted 22 July 2003 - 04:39 PM
Posted 22 July 2003 - 08:29 PM
Posted 23 July 2003 - 06:32 AM
They quoted me a new engine too, all it needed is a new pulley and a pin in the crankshaft. Runs fine now.
Posted 23 July 2003 - 06:39 AM
If it was broken (into two pieces) your car would not be moving. At all.
Posted 23 July 2003 - 06:58 AM
The bottom end on subaru's are very strong, I would say it's pretty uncommon for the bottom end to go on these motors.
Posted 23 July 2003 - 09:49 AM
Posted 23 July 2003 - 12:35 PM
The crankshaft in Subaru engines are forged from Chromium-Molybdenum (CroMo) steel. This is an expensive and extremely strong alloy. Under normal conditions, I don't think you could break one on a bet. If it is broken, it is almost certainly the result of a manufacturing defect.
Posted 23 July 2003 - 01:03 PM
Posted 23 July 2003 - 02:13 PM
The sound is very loud at certain rpms......see 1st post for description of problem
I love my subbie....but I had too many problems with it....just recently a coil spring broke..... weird steering wheel problem (subaru says is normal!!!.....whatever!), oil seals leaked, piston slap, weird coolant toye leak under car....3 different dealers never found a problem.....only found on the snow in winter, oil pressure sensor leaked all over the engine....
Seriously thinking of changing cars.... and not staying with subaru in fear that a new 2004 will cause me problems later.
I went to a different dealership to get a trade in quote....... giving me $11,500 cdn as opposed to subaru giving me $10,000. They test drove it and never saw the problem!
I would get another opinion but scared that the car braks down as the subbie dealer really reved it up to listen to it...thought it was going to break down in front of me. I am trying not to use it as subaru said it will seize up any second or minute...... have put about 50 kms since yesterday.
don't know what to do!
Posted 23 July 2003 - 02:16 PM
Posted 23 July 2003 - 03:44 PM
Subaru dealer says the crank is broke and is willing to give C$10,000 for a 97 with 100,000 Km??
Does that seem high to anyone else??
Posted 23 July 2003 - 03:50 PM
The $11,500 from a different manufactuer is the same...... they never noticed the problem after driving and inspecting the vehicle...... check to see what I could get for it in case I trade it in as is.... or after fixing it
Posted 23 July 2003 - 05:36 PM
Posted 23 July 2003 - 07:50 PM
Subaru is about to lose a dedicated fanatic about their cars because of my lemon..... I wanted a get a WRX in the spring...... may buy another Subbie in a few years once I really see if the WRX motor is reliable a few years down the road...... not going to get caught with a lemon again!
Posted 23 July 2003 - 08:58 PM
Posted 24 July 2003 - 07:00 AM
My friend chris had a 1974 Bronco with a 302 out of some ford car. He drove it everywhere, even after it started making this knocking noise. It got worse and worse, and he started looking for a replacement engine. He continued to drive it, however. One day, while peering under the hood, we noticed his belts seemed loose. Pulling on a belt revealed that the balancer was moving. The crank had broken at the first crankshaft web, but in such a way that the timing chain and all the accessories were still turning. So what do you do? Hold it to the floor until the b*tch blows up! Which we did. Then we swapped the motor...:rollin:
Posted 24 July 2003 - 07:26 AM
Posted 24 July 2003 - 04:47 PM
Posted 25 July 2003 - 08:47 AM
I owned one a long time ago and it was a nice car (MGB engine mounted sideways - even the rad was sideway) but the cables between the trans and the shift stick kept leaking.
Other than that, I really enjoyed this car.
Threw a rod on an Austin Marina, but that's another story.
Posted 26 July 2003 - 06:17 PM
Sounds to me like you have a VERY SIMILAR problem as me. I just have a few questions:
when starting up a hill when you feel the torque, does your engine start to "clinkity-clink-clink"
If you floor it going uphill/downhill @ low RPMs will it "clink" on occasion?
If you dont wind your engine up enough to go when releasing the clutch, will your engine make a "clack clack clack" (sort of like a piston slap noise) ?
Does it sound like a deisel?
Do you have EXCESSIVE valve noise?
Does your car backfire on a regular basis? (after changing plugs, wires, etc)
Does your car backfire on de-celleration?
Do you have to drive your car a certain way to prevent it from backfiring?
Does 3,800+ RPM's feel "weak"?
These are the main problems im dealing with.... please reply.
Posted 27 July 2003 - 08:07 PM
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