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#1 MaroonDuneDoom

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Posted 01 November 2003 - 04:46 AM

how do you bodyt lift a uni-body car? makes no sense to my friend here.

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Posted 01 November 2003 - 04:59 AM

This one gets people every time. Bolted to the unibody of a Subaru are subassemblies; front suspension, crossmember, rear suspension, strut tops, diff carrier etc. By placing blocks between these subassemblies and the body itself the body is lifted.

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Posted 01 November 2003 - 10:52 AM

Good explanation Scott.

I can't recall how many times I have tried to get people to understand that one either.

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Posted 01 November 2003 - 11:43 AM

That is a really good explanation. And combined with a simple diagram it'd be a good addition to the lifting FAQ on the Ultimate Repair Manaul.

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Posted 01 November 2003 - 02:47 PM

Yeah, Adam has a real good image in his album that shows blocks in the propper location. Alot of people do not grasp the concept of a uni-body lift, but after you actually see a lift, or install one it becomes alot easier to understand.

A lift kit FAQ would be a great addition to the USRM. I was in the process of making an article with instructions on installing a PK Lift, but only got the front done.

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Posted 01 November 2003 - 06:20 PM

thanks all. my friend, who works at a subaru dealership, was trying to tel me it couldn't be done. take into mind that he only does work on the newer soobs and chevys. he didn'ty believe me so i showed him some pics from the gallery. first laughter, then awe.
thanks again for clearin that one up.:grin:

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Posted 01 November 2003 - 06:25 PM

Yeah, John is working on lifts for EJ car's, so even the newer sube's will be able to be lifted.

When i was a kid, I had a friend with a father who had a CJ7 with a lift, and he worked in a off-road vehicle shop as a mechanic. When i asked him if a Subaru could be lifted, he said no way, no how... boy i wish I was still in contact with him so I can prove him wrong.

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Posted 01 November 2003 - 06:55 PM

Tell your friend to come to the next West Coast Subaru Show - I'm sure some 6" and higher lifted stuff will show up.

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Posted 02 November 2003 - 03:41 AM

yeah, all the way from wyoming.:lol: ha! how bout you guys come to me. the first wyoming meet!:brow:
i know there is a guy in laramie and one in so dak. thats three, we got a start:headbang: :burnout:

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Posted 02 November 2003 - 11:07 AM

not so far fetched. WCSS3 had people from CA, OR, WA, ID, CO, SD, IA..... maybe more....

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Posted 02 November 2003 - 11:24 AM

I've been to Wyoming, stayed in Star Valley for a weekend.
That was the emptiest place I've ever been to. The Bonneville Salt Flats are more exciting than Wyonming. I know I'll never go there again if I have it my way.

Did you know it's the coldest State in the Continental US?



WCSS5 had at least one car from as far away as Indiana. 100 cars in all. . . or so.

#12 Qman

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Posted 02 November 2003 - 11:31 AM

And wasn't Shawn in Illinios then?

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Posted 02 November 2003 - 11:36 AM

no, he was back in IA by then.....

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Posted 02 November 2003 - 12:52 PM

coming from the outside 4X4 world before subes. when you do a suspension lift on a toyota, chevy ect. you put spacers in to drop the suspension components. when you do a body lift you add spacers between the body and frame. body lifts dont gain a lot in the way of ground clearance due to the fact that the frame is exactly where it started. vw bugs have body lifts that actually lift the shell off the pan a few inches. thats as close to a unibody lift as I know.

It would seem to me that what we do to lift a sube is more like a suspension lift than a body lift. body lifts are for trucks that dont really wheel usually. just makes more sense to me that way. ok im ready for the:argue: .

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Posted 02 November 2003 - 02:27 PM

more like a suspension lift, but we have to drop the engine too, which adds a bit of body-lift flavor.

#16 Qman

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Posted 02 November 2003 - 02:33 PM

No.

It is a full fledged body lift as the suspension components do not go any where. The body is raised off of them. A suspension lift requires different springs (plus blocks in some instances)

The body lift does allow for larger tires in all cases. Which is where the extra clearance comes from.

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Posted 02 November 2003 - 02:44 PM

how easy is it to lift the suspension a couple/few inches?
what all does it involve?

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Posted 02 November 2003 - 02:45 PM

Mine (as all of Mudrat's 3" lifted roo's) has 3" of suspension lift in the rear. Still a body lift up front tho.

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Posted 02 November 2003 - 02:46 PM

I couple inches could be done, but any more than that, and the axles won't have enough travel anymore. The axles are the main problem with lifting the suspension on soobs from what I understand.

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Posted 02 November 2003 - 02:51 PM

Hey Zap, i have spent some time in Star Valley.....lets see like 18 years of my life......

Zap isn't lying when he says it sucks, cause it does. But strangly i miss it still. Well the fishing and mountains anyway. Not the people by any means.

Where in Star valley did you stay zap? And why in the hell where you so far from home?

sorry for the hijack....now back to your regularly schedualed program....

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Posted 02 November 2003 - 07:26 PM

It would seem to me that what we do to lift a sube is more like a suspension lift than a body lift. body lifts are for trucks that dont really wheel usually. just makes more sense to me that way. ok im ready for the



I think you have a valid point, it is sort of a combination of the two because the frame is attatched to the body and it goes up as well. However, as much of a problem as people have grasping the concept of lifting a Subaru I like to keep the explaination as simple as possible.




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