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HELP! Over heating Loyale (need to get back to college)
Posted 19 August 2006 - 02:36 AM
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Posted 19 August 2006 - 02:59 AM
BTW any chances of the water pump going, and if so how hard is it to pull?
No - not unless it's leaking so bad that you have a puddle under the car. When they fail (there's only one moving part) the bearings go out and they leak like crazy. There is no failure mode for the water pump where it's "effectiveness" is reduced. It either works or does not.
Posted 19 August 2006 - 03:00 AM
Head Gaskets are generally about a 4 - 8 hour job depending on skill level and how many times you have done it (and how many problems you run into) - not including machine shop time if the heads need to be milled (likely they are warped if it's been that hot). I would definately make sure you are on the right track before you dive into those, but it's very common with the EA82 when it's been overheated.
Sounds like an adventure if nothing else. Any other good threads on this?
Posted 19 August 2006 - 03:00 AM
Posted 19 August 2006 - 03:30 AM
yah it sounds obvious, but there was a recent thread where i believe it was NorthWet mentioned it.. and he is a seasoned Soober... and the general response was essentially, "gee. thats a great idea, that took NO mental exertion.. but WE ALL missed it!" so i figured id mention the idea to you so you caught it, its easy to miss any particular thread in the background noise while doing a search..
Good luck, try also doing a search for FSM or Factory Service manual... someone around here has a significant chunk of an 89 loyale FSM in PDF format, and it does contain the entire engine section, so the procedure is mapped out in that. the USRM (look at the top right corner of the screen) and a book called How To Keep Your Subaru Alive (HTKYSA) are also excellent resources.
I hate to just be the one saying "do a search..." but i dont have any links handy, and i know the threads ive mentioned have been FAIRLY recent, so it shouldnt be too difficult. Let us know how it turns out, and have fun this semester (when you make it back:eek: )
Posted 19 August 2006 - 07:10 PM
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Posted 19 August 2006 - 07:22 PM
You can get by with just the head gasket - Fel-Pro all the way, don't have to retorque them - the cam carrier oil passage o-ring, and the manifold gaskets. Get those last two from the dealer - they are only a few dollars.
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Posted 20 August 2006 - 01:03 PM
Cougar=cool car, horrific mileage (it has the cleveland motor, it is nice to be able to cruise over any pass and hold 80mph, and rock honda civics' world.)
Posted 21 August 2006 - 01:31 PM
also i was looking at going to a higher volt coil and widening my plugs gap a little more, I have heard this makes the car more efficient. Is that a myth?
Anything I should do preventative on it while everything is in pieces?
Posted 22 August 2006 - 02:20 AM
sorry. but the answer to your last question, would be all of those gaskets that GD just said you could get away with not doing. they lifters are hydraulic, i dont know if there is any sort of bench service that can be done to them?? while you have the heads off.. and the oilpump was a suggestion "since you're there"
if you elect to do a water pump, dont scrimp. make sure that the silly pipe and hose apparatus that is the outlet (i think?) for the pump is properly sealed and in good shape.. i dont know if any of these aluminum pieces have started to ossify and destryo themselves on the subes yet, but i know mine looked like many a datsun coolant piece that LOOKED okay until disassembly.. and then crumbled... but many have looked the same and been perfectly fine, smack em with a rubber mallet and they dont break.. But make sure everything looks good. you are already doing the difficult bit, and if you arent going to do any head modding, or port matching type work, thats about it.
as for your ignition ??s, i dont know. im not that enlightened yet. enjoy the cleveland, its nice to play with what our parents grew up with once in a while, before its forgotten.. because i think at 3 bucks a gallon and rising, the time of those vehicles is not much longer.. even as eccentrics... its going to take wealth to drive a car like that much sooner than i think most of us would like.
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