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Clutch Slipping-What to do/which one?


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#1 billrigsby

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 09:59 PM

The stock clutch in my 99 Impreza 2.2L has finally started to go .
Any opinions on a replacement, Stock, Hi-Perf, Brands, etc.
I assume that I will need to just drop the transaxel to replace
and not pull the whole engine/trans combo? Don't have a
manual for this MY.

Looking forward to your opinions :banana: Bill

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 03:59 AM

"Just" drop the trans? If it's 4WD it may well be easier to pull the engine. Exhaust has to come off no matter what, and from there it just depends on whether you prefer to dismount the axles and propshaft or the fuel pipes and wiring for the engine.

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 04:12 AM

Just get an independant Subaru repair shop to replace the clutch.

Removing the engine to change the clutch is possible, but requires at least two people to realign the engine and transmission since the tranmission is loose when not attached to the engine.

It is much easier to drop the transmission to swap the clutch, although this will mean that a lift is required. Without a lift or other method of getting the car at least three feet off the ground, your stuck to the engine removal method.

Here in Canada I can have a Subaru clutch changed for under $600 using original Subaru parts. Parts alone would cost me $450, so spending $150 to have someone else do it is not all that bad. Labour time is 3 hours if the shop is good, and 5 hours plus if not so good.

I can't recommend any particular clutch, as I have never worn one out. Only thing I can suggest is that you have the flywheel properly resurfaced. The local autoparts store will most likely do an insufficient job of it.

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:18 PM

Napa chraged me 240.00 for a NEW clutch....similar to AutoZone's price of 230.00......Miles always told me to pull the motor and service the motor the same time you pull it...belts, seals, etc. Takes half the time and and can be done with one person! We will be doing this to my 93 Impreza this weekend! To make things even more fun, we will be swaping motors from my 90 Legacy!

What kind of performance do you get from your 2.2 Impreza? The 1.8 is ok, but.....

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 08:48 PM

I like the performance of the 2.2L, has plenty of power
but I would really like to get the SVX engine I have in
there. Everyone says it won't fit very easily.

Do you really have to have the car 3 FEET off the ground
to pull a trany, I have never had to get a car thet high,
What is the reason for this?



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Posted 10 November 2003 - 09:21 PM

Originally posted by billrigsby
I like the performance of the 2.2L, has plenty of power
but I would really like to get the SVX engine I have in
there. Everyone says it won't fit very easily.
Bill



More like wont fit at all....... The SVX engine is based on the EJ22, but with the extra cylinders it is about 6 inches longer, maybe more.

There isn't six inches of space between your current engine and radiator.

You would also need some custom compoents like an engine crossmember, engine mounts, and stiffer front springs to handle the extra weight of the 3.3 H6.

And then we get into wiring harnesses and ECU's..... and exhaust... the list goes on and on.

For nearly the cost of a whole SVX I am sure it can be done, but why not get the lighter and more powerful turbo 2.0 H4 instead?


Do you really have to have the car 3 FEET off the ground
to pull a trany, I have never had to get a car thet high,
What is the reason for this?


Can be done with less, you just need enough space to pull the transmission back at least a foot (prefereably more) to remove the clutch and flywheel. The transmission bell housing needs to clear the firewall.

4 16" jack stands will probably work, but I wont vouch for how easy it is to crawl under there to do the work.....

If you need to due other engine work, by all means pull the motor. I have done it before, but I needed a friend to align the transmission to the engine from underneath, while aligned the engine to the transmission. While operating the engine hoist you can't easily see what you are aligning.

I have lift access, so pulling the tranny is quicker for me.

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Posted 11 November 2003 - 12:14 AM

I thought of all the wiring, computers, etc. i have done lots of
tight conversions, I will probably just fix the wrecked SVX and
enjoy it.


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Posted 11 November 2003 - 12:15 AM

OH, I would take the trans completely out to do the clutch,
not try to do it under the vehicle.

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Posted 11 November 2003 - 08:47 AM

For old times sake.
Replaced an old Austin clutch once with a used one. This was on the street, car resting on its tires. I crawled under the tranny while my brother removed the last bolts and dropped it on my chest. That's extreme shade tree mechanic :eek:
Ah, if I could roll back the clock...

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Posted 11 November 2003 - 08:26 PM

I can bench press a turbo 350 :)
And a volvo borg warner,
ford ranger tranny,
ford c6,
crysler 904 torqflite,
oddly enough, a mitsubishi eclipse's trans/awd transfer was one of the heaviest, mostly because I had to hold it at an unnatural angle for about 3 minutes straight while my friend struggled to get a single bolt in.
Often, the hardest part is getting the trans BACK ON your chest so you can heave it in place.

I'm surprised I haven't killed myself.

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Posted 12 November 2003 - 09:23 AM

Leverage, comrades, is your best friend. I did a clutch replacement on my Legacy and, using two people and a floor jack, I was able to "precisely" raise the transmission into place, and bolt in. This worked well enough, but bench pressing any tranny is a mite dangerous. Anyway, just my $.02.

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Posted 12 November 2003 - 09:41 AM

Could we have some more details Schmitty?
Chests getting more brittle with age... :(

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Posted 12 November 2003 - 12:39 PM

I don't know if it will work on a AWD suby, but I will tell you one of my experiences anyway. My brother and I were either putting a clutch or a transmission in his FWD dodge, I lost track on that car. I took a long 2x4 and set it on the car right at the top of the firewall. The car was jacked up in the front. My brother slid the tranny under the car. We tied a rope from the tranny to the board and I used the board's leverage to lift the tranny up so he could bolt it to the engine. Worked like a charm. We had another board running across the car from one inner fender to the other with a rope going down to support the engine.

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Posted 30 November 2003 - 05:55 PM

:banana:

I fianlly got around to changing the clutch in the 99 Impreza,
I have done a lot of clutches, but I don't remember any
that were as easy as this one, even the exhaust nuts/bolts
came off BY FINGER once they were loosened. As usual the
hardest part was getting the splines lined up and the trans
to slide back in.

Next i need to do the water pump on the 95 Impreza....

No rest for the wicked :madder:
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