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Ditch The Hill Holder?


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#1 archemitis

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 11:36 AM

could i get rid of my hill holder in my 86 hatch? which lines do i disconnect, and could i just plug them, or do i have to couple them together? ea82 is a tight fit, and i could use the extra room.

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:14 PM

In my BRAT I pulled the hill holder all together and replaced it with a three way block identical to the one next to it. Allows allot more room for the disty on the ER27

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:53 PM

Always get rid of hill holders!

Off road they are dangerous as you can't roll backwards.
This is a problem if you need to roll back down a steep hill.
Your brakes will be locked until you release the clutch, but you have to be in neutral to do this if your rolling backwards.

They are evil..........except on road!

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#4 calebz

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 01:29 PM

No hill holder here.I have the Master cylinder and lines from an auto with no hill holder.. just remember to put a return spring on the clutch

#5 Qman

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 01:43 PM

For the purpose of getting more room it makes sense. You can run without it but as Caleb stated you need to install a return spring on the clutch. It serves a dual purpose.

As far as being dangerous. That's a bit harsh. You can adjust it to perform where/when you want it to. I have never removed them for any reason.

#6 electryc_monk

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 01:51 PM

I would of thought the heavy offroaders would of discovered a way to "dis-abble" the HH unit insteadof having to monkey with a removal and then repurging of the brake system.

After i did a swap onto the turbo from the ole GL (yes i like the HH and kept it) the install afforded me the opportunity to discover that if the adapter cable was "adjusted far enough out" the HH would not engage at all. -This came from findingout that the second "locking nut" had come loose and the primamry nut had unscreded along ways allowing for this "accidental knowledge to become appearant to me.

any thoughts from elsewhere?

#7 Qman

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 02:13 PM

Exactly Steve.

Caleb, you should mention that your car started as an auto.

#8 calebz

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 02:18 PM

True, it did, but I had the whole thing apart, wth the HH setup and the non HH setup sitting next to each other on the garage floor.. for ease of use, I opted for no HH

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 02:50 PM

Yep - if they are far enough out of adjustment, they will not engage at all.

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 03:50 PM

lov ed the HH in my wagon, till the spring that pulls it back snapped at a light.. i had to romp the wagon, turbo spoolin, 4 grand on the tach to get it outa the intersection.. the i got out, pulled the lever back, unhooked the cable, and away i went :burnout:

although don't think i'll hook the one up on the hatch, as stated its nice to be able to roll backwards when 4x4ing..

#11 MilesFox

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 03:59 PM

if your reason to remove involves an engine swap, a master cylinder from an automatic will provide more distributor clearance

#12 archemitis

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 04:13 PM

hopefully the master will not be in my way, right now it just seems like the hill holder is holding me up. but, the mpfi distributor does have two vac thingies instead of just one. how much shorter is the auto one, and is it weaker? or what?

#13 calebz

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 05:00 PM

I had one of each side by side in my garage.. they were the same size.. just that one had all the HH crap attached to it and one didn't. and the HH crap can be removed..




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