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#1 Scott in Bellingham

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Posted 22 November 2006 - 03:32 PM

thinkin duals front and rear with a 2" lift maybe cool , use stock subaru rims and 25-26" snowish tires , maybe run the outer tires smaller so they wouldnt contact the ground untill you needed them ,this would also help with the stock gearing, run a locked rear of course

#2 Andyjo

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Posted 22 November 2006 - 04:34 PM

wheel bearings?!?!? :eek:

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Posted 22 November 2006 - 07:48 PM

In my experience duals are terrible off-road. The space between the tires fills up with mud, and occasionally rocks get stuck in there too. This leads to a bunch of extra weight, and a loss of traction from the mud slick. I've broken 3" limbs trying to lever out stuff stuck in the duals of the dueces. Even the military has gone away from them in favor of more adanced single tire designs, and more axles for load bearing.

They are great for towing, and for carrying heavy loads, but for off-road they are just not the right technology. It's unsafe to air them down because as the two tires flex toward each other, things caught between them can puncture the sidewall. I've passed dualie trucks stuck in snow with my soob.

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Posted 23 November 2006 - 07:26 PM

how do you lock a rear.. sorry for the thread heist.. but just curious..

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Posted 23 November 2006 - 07:45 PM

how do you lock a rear.. sorry for the thread heist.. but just curious..

Good thing to do is start a new thread or do a search. The only way so far that we know of for Subaru's is weld the spider gears to the diff housing (no, not the bit you see when you look under the car, the bit that bolts the the crown wheel)
I have pictures in a post somewhere on here, wait a mo, here you go http://www.ultimates...ead.php?t=65238

#6 970subaru

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 08:03 PM

good way to get stuff out of dually tires is to put a ratchet strap around it, and around a tree or part of the vehicle, then drive in the direction that will pull the piece out.

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Posted 26 November 2006 - 01:57 AM

There was an article in 4 wheeler a couple of years back, about a roadie for AC/DC. I digress, anyway he had a huge 4 door extended bed chevy 3/4 ton dually offroader, that did pretty well (at least the pictures would lead you to believe)

It was a southwest, dune runner which may be why it worked well, and wouldn't work well in the northwest.

I'd say go for it, at least in the rear, i'd say not so much in the front, but it would be cool to see anyway.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 01:25 PM

I saw a rockcrawler out at the moonrocks that was sporting dualies front and rear, making an 8 wheeler.:eek: Seemed to do all right, as GD said , I didn't see him air down much, but it looked cool.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 03:02 PM

Here is a Subie sporting Dualies

http://www.rhinobugg...talkerdualy.jpg

A highly modified Subaru...

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 11:55 PM

Dual wheels will help in situations where you're looking for floatation, rather than traction. I've seen them a lot on quads where they're going through crazy mud or really boggy ground. However, if it's possible, you'd probably be better off with a single really wide tire.

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 12:21 AM

Dual wheels will help in situations where you're looking for floatation, rather than traction. I've seen them a lot on quads where they're going through crazy mud or really boggy ground. However, if it's possible, you'd probably be better off with a single really wide tire.


An aired down swamper would still have more contact patch than two full-pressure swamps of the same size..... this is one reason the military is doing away with the dual's on their trucks. Rubber compounds, and the advent of radial tires (yeah - I know the ARMY is a little behind the times tho) allows wider tires and CTIS systems. You can't air down dual's without serious risk of damage. The first Army rig with CTIS was the DUKW (amphibious 2.5 ton "duece"), and unlike all the other dueces it's got no duals. This, and it's amphibious nature prevented it from carrying a full 2.5 tons of cargo generally. It was a problem to say the least, and one of the reasons it was retired. The M35-A3 version of the duece (CAT turbo deisel) hasn't got duals either, as it's got the electronic cab-controled CTIS system.

Maybe for a quad - wide, low pressure tires..... yeah it might work for those, but I'm no quad expert either.

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 02:56 PM

Subaru with Duals..
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#13 Virrdog

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 07:18 PM

Subaru with Duals..
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Holy crap those are some sweet wheels. :slobber:

#14 baccaruda

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 01:49 AM

that thing is awesome.

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#15 Scott in Bellingham

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 07:22 PM

heres one
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#16 michael appel

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Posted 01 December 2006 - 08:55 AM

I want it wow




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