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$10 per spark plug????
Posted 22 December 2006 - 10:20 AM
I wanted to do a basic tuneup on our recently aquired '98 OBW 2.5L and wanted to start with plugs and wires. I got aftermarket wires, but skipped getting plugs for now. The parts store wanted $10 per plug for "laser" platinum OEM style (I think the p/n was PFR5B-11)! Single platinum plugs were under $2 each. Not even Bosch +4's cost as much as the "stock" plug. Did I just happen to find a parts store who thinks their plugs are made of solid gold? I've been working on cars (toyota mainly) for 15 years, but never ever saw a plug costing $10 (not even on Land Rovers).
Posted 22 December 2006 - 10:44 AM
So, I guess I answered my own question!
Posted 22 December 2006 - 10:58 AM
I say do more searching. I thought a lot of people like the copper ngks, I use them in my 2.2....I did this after searching, but that was a year ago. I don't remember anything about lasers
Posted 22 December 2006 - 01:31 PM
G-powers were cheap, maybe 4 bucks a plug. Might be worth a look as an alternative to the lasers. I picked them up at NAPA.
Posted 22 December 2006 - 03:41 PM
Posted 22 December 2006 - 05:42 PM
Spark plug wire removal and replacement was a lot easier than I was expecting. I've worked on much more difficult engines than this. I don't know why anyone would want to mess with trying to take the plugs and wires out from up top in the engine bay. The plugs and wires were pretty well in the wide open from below (and I didn't even jack the car up or put it on ramps, but I could have if I felt like it). While it's still a bit cramped to get my hand in the space between the inner fender and valve cover, it was a lot better than trying to snake my way through engine parts, wiring, etc.... I put the wires in from the bottom too. I tried to dangle them down into position from above, but the large boot was binding in the small amount of space. The wires went in much easier from below.
The worst part of the whole job was trying to get my stupid socket wrench from disconnecting from the 3" extension, or the extension from the socket. I used a standard spark plug socket with rubber insert, 3" extension for a 3/8" drive rachet, and a 3/8" rachet. I tried using a swivel joint for a little extra length, but it made it too awkward to get good leverage. As most of you are probably already aware, it's easiest to put the socket in the spark plug hole first, then put the 3" extension in there (and spin it around until it engages with the socket, then keep spinning and pushing in until the socket engages the plug), then put the rachet on. For removal, remove the rachet from the extension, then remove the extension from the socket, then pull the socket out with the plug in it (the rubber socket insert is most helpful for this part).
The plugs were nice looking, no evidence of oil leakage (knock on wood). The plugs were OEM style NGK's, so with 131k I don't know if they are original or not (but probably). There was some funny green corrosion on one of the ignition pack terminals (#2), so I cleaned that off with a wire brush.
Posted 22 December 2006 - 09:39 PM
Posted 23 December 2006 - 09:21 AM
you made a very, very good decision here. aftermarket cause lots of problems on all EJ series engines.
Well, I ended up buying the OEM laser platinum plugs. I had bought aftermarket wires, but I opted to return them and bought OEM wires at the dealer. The boots are a little too fancy to hope an aftermarket brand got it right.
Posted 25 December 2006 - 03:12 PM
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Posted 31 December 2006 - 05:18 AM
EJ22 is easy, since the plugs point upward :cool:
Posted 01 January 2007 - 09:30 PM
It was easy enough for me just to go from underneath the car to remove the plugs, that I didn't even put it up on ramps. That turned it into one of the easier spark plug jobs I've done. The only difficulty I personally had was getting my sockets/extensions/rachet to seperate on command.
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