chef_tim Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 So I was thinking (yes, I know, it can be dangerous) that on my next off road build I would like to do a wagon again. The hatch is fun and all but not very "utilitarian". However I would like to reuse the bumper I built. The down side is I lost alot of approach angle. So, I was thinking, why not mount the radiator horizontaly on or just under the hood. That way I can pull the bumper and winch back to an almost stock position. With the lift I should have plenty of space, and I'd continue to use aftermarket fans to draw in air, through a rectangle hole cut into the bonnet. What say ye off roaders???? Later, Tim here's for reference..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberoo Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Subarubrat.com has a tilting radiator on top of the engine-EZ33 I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakoTGrimes Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Matt put his radiator on top of the engine with no hood for a while but it got in the way, plus it would probably get annoying lifting that weight with the hood. What about mounting it into a radiator sized hole in the roof and having 2 fans on top or below that? You'd have one hell of a heater in the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 There was a blue EA82 wagon at WCSS7 running an ER27. There was no room for a radiator in front of the engine, so they had it attached to the hood much like your are suggesting. It seemed to work fine. Whose car was that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberoo Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 the one Im refering to,they mounted the radiator to a support separate from the hood.Then they can tilt the radiator with the hood open.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakoTGrimes Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 ThreeEyedBandit, he's not on here that often. It's an 84 wagon with an ER27 and a Jeep Cherokee rad - was on the engine, now in the cargo area with fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Subarubrat.com has a tilting radiator on top of the engine-EZ33 I think...Don't mean to pick holes at you, just want you to know the right info.There is an EZ30, and an EG33. Also subarubrat has an ER27. See, I can do my part at spreading "true" information too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Maybe Ian can take more pics for you before he sells his hatch... http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/photos/showphoto.php?photo=10854&cat=500&ppuser=600 GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberoo Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Don't mean to pick holes at you, just want you to know the right info.There is an EZ30, and an EG33. Also subarubrat has an ER27. See, I can do my part at spreading "true" information too. oops sorry All I knew was it was a 6 sorry...wait isnt er27 a EA82 with two more holes?I thought he had the H6 from an outback? confuzled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 oops sorry All I knew was it was a 6 sorry...wait isnt er27 a EA82 with two more holes?I thought he had the H6 from an outback? confuzled. yep, it's an XT6 motor. his is built to about 250 hp....but still an ER27. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 yep, it's an XT6 motor. his is built to about 250 hp....but still an ER27. Heluva engine, but I doubt that rig has ever turned a wheel in anger, a pity too... One of the nicest lifted soobs I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodaka Rider Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Actually, he posted off-road/muddy pics at one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef_tim Posted February 3, 2007 Author Share Posted February 3, 2007 I like that set-up. I was thinking in the front, but there's no reason why a guy couldn't move it back and use up some of that wasted space. Later, Tim Maybe Ian can take more pics for you before he sells his hatch... http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/photos/showphoto.php?photo=10854&cat=500&ppuser=600 GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef_tim Posted February 13, 2007 Author Share Posted February 13, 2007 Okay, now I've been thinking again, "How am I going to fill the thing and keep it full"???? So my thought was to make the radiator able to tip up at an angle, fill it then lay it back down. The one thing that does worry me is being at the highest point in the cooling system it will be the first to go dry if I do lose coolant (does that make sense???) The other thought I had was to have the fill neck reworked so that it is at a 90º angle, pop in a funnel and fill it up. Any ideas or thoughts welcomed, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike W Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Hey Tim, do you remember seeing the horizontal radiator in my red Hatch way back when? I used a radiator and presure tank out of a Porsche 924. Not only is it a nice rad with powerful fans, but the way that system was designed, the radiator cap isn't on the radiator, but rather the cap is on the pressure tank. The pressure tank (reservoir) is mounted higher than the radiator and you fill it through the cap on the tank. I works great that way, the only thing I'd do different, is hinge the radiator so it's easier to access the clutch adjustment, and I'd exhaust the heat up and out the rear of the hood, perhaps with a cowl type hood vent like Qman has (had?) on his Brat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Just have a radiator shop solder a new filler neck to the front of the tank. So that it's pointing up when it's laying flat on it's side. Should be pretty trivial for them really - they are used to making solder repairs on tanks, etc. Friend of mine works for a radiator shop and can build pretty much any radiator you could want. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef_tim Posted February 14, 2007 Author Share Posted February 14, 2007 That's pretty much what I was thinking but reworking the neck. I guess cutting a hole in the front and soldering on a new filler would be good too. I'm now thinking this might get a start on my hatch and not wait to build a wagon to do it. Good stuff, thanks. Tim Just have a radiator shop solder a new filler neck to the front of the tank. So that it's pointing up when it's laying flat on it's side. Should be pretty trivial for them really - they are used to making solder repairs on tanks, etc. Friend of mine works for a radiator shop and can build pretty much any radiator you could want. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike W Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Another thing that might be helpful, is that you can swap and rotate the thermostat housing to make hose routing less funky. Old RX7s had a radiator cap on the t-stat housing and it swaps onto EA engines. For hoses, most auto part stores will let you go through their stock to find the hose you need. Have fun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef_tim Posted February 16, 2007 Author Share Posted February 16, 2007 Good call on the thermo housing. I think once I lay it all out prior to mounting I'll "see" alot of possibilities. I called the radiator shop and he seemed willing to do what he could. Even had a few words of wisdom for me. Thanks again guys, I'm looking forward to some temps in at least the double digits (above 0) so I can start on this thing. Later, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef_tim Posted February 19, 2007 Author Share Posted February 19, 2007 I test fit an EA series radiator and it seems a littel wide. I could make it work but I spent about an hour on the "internets" looking for other radiators. Vehicles like Chevettes, Geos, and a couple of others were looking in the size range I was looking at. Price was right on most of them to. Next may be a trip to the wrecking yard just to look at fillers, inlet, and out lets. Later, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef_tim Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 It has begain. I pulled the radiator and bumper today, I'm going to refit the bumper first then start to work on the radiator. :banana: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruguru Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 hope it all works out im doing the same thing for my filler i just cut the one off my stock soob rad and clamped a hose on it the took the cap end and clamped it to the other end keeps it flexable and filler friendly lol im just mounting it at an angle in the spare tire area and mounting the dule fans in the hood but idk if i want to run them both pushing in to the rad pulling out or one going each way to circulate what u think ???? Tha:burnout: nks (ps sorry if i hijacked) Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef_tim Posted April 12, 2007 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 I'm going to have my fans on the underside so they pull air in from out side. I'll be building a "hood scoop" to cover the hole in the hood so snow and junk doesn't pile up on the radiator. I'm still looking at how to mount the radiator, but I'm thinking a rectangle cradle out of angle iron and mounting brackets bolted to the strut top bolts. Share some pics as you get started and I'll do the same. Later, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruguru Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 yeah the strut tower im doing the same sorta ideah ill post pics as i go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruguru Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 hey i did it its all good ill post pics today i have ot buy batterys for the camera uhhhh i hate when hey go dead (((SUCSESS))) ah ha Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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