carfreak85 Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Ok guys, I've got a good one for you. I pulled my Turbo wagon out of the garage today and let it run in the driveway. after it was warm, I went out and revved the engine a bit. after a few good revs, if I blip the throttle or give it a lot of gas and let it idle down, it will die on me. Now for my question, WHAT IS WRONG????? Update: now when I start it, if i dont get on the gas, it will idle for a few seconds, then die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Maybe the fuel filter? I just had to do mine on my EA82 non-turbo. Was running fine but if you blipped it it would die. Thought I would start at least with an idea. Bump your post back to the top. --GoatBoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted November 25, 2003 Author Share Posted November 25, 2003 I already did the fuel filter. it idled for 15 minuites last night before I shut it off. maybe after sitting for so long I knocked something loose in the gas tank and it clogged the fuel filter. should I replace it again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperRallyRoo Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Well mine does the if its cold and i don't hold on the gas it will die... After about 10 seconds it runs fine though. I don't rev the **** outta my car so its never died like that b4. Maybe if u stop revving it for no good reason? LoL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Maybe something made it past the filter and is clogging your jets. Mine was still trying to die after changing the filter. I pulled off into a parking lot and grabbed my carb cleaner in a can and sprayed the heck out of the carb. It helps if you have two people though, one to rev the gas to keep it from dying and you to spray the carb down. It fixed my problem anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted November 25, 2003 Author Share Posted November 25, 2003 Thanks Matt, but I dont need the sarcasim. Goatboy, my car is a turbo, so it has not carb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperRallyRoo Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 I actually was being serious. Reving a car while its not even moving isn't good for it. How high where u reving it? Maybe some idle down system isn't working properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Crappy. Then I am at a loss. Unless your fuel pump is producing enough pressure but then I guess you wouldn't be able to rev it up either. But hey look . . . I got you rpost some attention! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperRallyRoo Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 lol! Its not like I know much more about soobs then he does. We both know each other, Galen do have u changed ur O2 sensor? i guess it wouldn't have passed emissions with a bad one though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted November 25, 2003 Author Share Posted November 25, 2003 i could check to see if it got unplugged. I dont think so, because I plugged it in just yesterday, but Ill check again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beauregaardhooligan Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Maybe water/condensation in the gas? How long has it been sitting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted November 25, 2003 Author Share Posted November 25, 2003 It has been sitting since last December. However, because I love it so much, I sometimes go and start it and let it run for a while. I should get some gas heat for and follow the trouble shooting tree in the FSM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcomp Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 the o2 will have no effect until the engine reaches a certain temp and it goes off the preprogrammed warm up fuel and timing maps then it will go into closed loop and take input from 02 perhaps check the and see if the maf has died or even the throttle sensor did you try some fresher gas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted November 25, 2003 Author Share Posted November 25, 2003 This only started happening today after the car reached operating temp, making the O2 sensor a seemingly likely culprit. Ill get some fresh gas along with some gas heat tomorrow and Ill read up on the MAF and throttle sensor trouble shooting guides tonight. Any other suggestions or past experiences? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerFahrer Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 I say the gas is bad. I remember how ANGRY I got at my grandfather for something so asinine, it almost left me stranded on the road at 1AM. My Legacy was misbehaving that night, so I decided she could sit in the garage and pout :temper: So I borrowed my granpa's 92 Isuzu p'up, carbed 2.3L... Coming home, the engine just died. I tried starting it, to no avail. I tried starting it with the pedal to the floor, and it started, but I let off the gas and it died again. So I started it again at WOT, and kept it there. It ran fine with the throttle wide open, any less and it would die. So I literally drove the truck WOT all the way home. Thank heavens it is so slow, so I wasn't really going all that fastm even floored I got home and parked it and had to sit and relax for a few minutes, then went to bed. I woke up and told him in the morning, saying maybe it had a bad fuel pump or something. He said "no, it's full, I just put some gas that I found somewhere in it not too long ago..." I damn near slapped him right there for putting UNKNOWN gas in his vehicle!!! Who knows what else was in it besides gasoline??? Water, beer, skunk piss??? So now that I got that old story off my chest, put some fresh gas in it and see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted November 25, 2003 Author Share Posted November 25, 2003 sounds a lot like my little baby! ill put some fuel saver and new gas in since it has 3/4 tank already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernzie Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 I hope you don't have the opposite problem I just went through. My Turbo would be almost impossible to keep running when it was cold. The engine would just sit there and flood until the fast idle would kick off, after that it would run like a top. After checking everything under the sun I was told it was the ECU acting up. I didn't believe it but I picked up another one, hooked it up and the problem was gone. Good luck finding your gremlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted November 25, 2003 Author Share Posted November 25, 2003 thanks for the support, I've been waiting for this car to be ready to go for so long, and if its not done my mid december, we will have to drive the minivan to the mountains!!! YUCK:boohoo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 keep in mind about the coolant temp sensor, as it will have some input while its warm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted November 26, 2003 Author Share Posted November 26, 2003 Well guys and gals, I poured like 4 gallons of premium gas into her and drove her a little to get the old gas out of the lines, but still she has to go and die on me... what should I do next? I could check for codes, but the ECS light isnt on. I know it works because when the key is in the on position, it comes on. IM so angry!!! rawr!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted November 26, 2003 Author Share Posted November 26, 2003 bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupidru Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 yeah...like Miles said...coolant temp sensor...Skip has the lowdown on this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Ditto on the sensor. You need to find the green connector under the dash, left side, one wire. Once this is connected, you will be able to read the codes. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 T-bone, I think as per the instructions the "read memory" connectors are black in color http://www.troublecodes.net/Subaru/ If the coolant temp sensor has corroded connections, as is most often the problem, the ECU will not light the light nor store a code as their is still resistance on the input. I believe the ECU would have to see an open (infinte resistance) or a dead short (0 resistance) before tripping the CEL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted November 26, 2003 Author Share Posted November 26, 2003 Alright, I checked for codes and i got an 11: Open or ground in wiring and a 12: Starter SW 1, sticked to off. I know what the first one means, but what about the second? Do you think these two coeds are related? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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