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#1 Guest_vic se_*

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Posted 17 July 2003 - 02:38 AM

I believe the paint finish on my 03 sub is very fragile.
What's the best protection!?

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Posted 17 July 2003 - 05:59 AM

A good, professionally applied high-quality paste wax applied once a year by people who know what they are doing. Unless the person putting it on knows how to operate a buffer, it should be hand-rubbed. Buffers in the wrong hands can do an incredible amount of damage to a finish. I say once a year because you can apply "touch up" coats of wax by yourself a few times a year. But that quality base is key.

Go to a "touchless" car wash that doesn't use brushes. Car washes do as little equipment maintenance as possible, and the cloths and brushes are typically impregnated with grit which will trash your paint job fast. I've got millions of micro scratches on my windshield (and paint) from the %^&^ car wash.

I've come to the same conclusion about the paint on my '99 OBW -- it is "delicate."

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Posted 17 July 2003 - 06:54 AM

what's best....do it yourself. i wouldn't trust my car to any car wash place, and the touchless jobbers don't do a good job, and in most cases you have the guys at the end wiping the dirt around on the paint that the car wash missed.

zymol makes some nice products. You can get as elaborate into waxes and protectants as you can imagine, or you can go buy some stuff down at the local autoparts store that works fine. It really depends on how much time, money, and what you want your finish to look like.

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Posted 17 July 2003 - 08:58 AM

What they said!

I have kept my 82 Hatch paint in great shape by HAND WASHING it and NO ELECTRIC BUFFERS!:cool:

My wife had a 82 that she let an amateur power buff. Clear coat was gone by 87:mad:

Keep any industrial fallout off by hand waxing it off, don't let it build up, it will form rust:mad: .

I have never been picky about brands of wax, I just use a Name Brand!

Keep it looking good8o
Glenn,
82 Hatch, took all my great body panels off?:rolleyes:
01 Forester, Gonna stay in good shape! :P

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Posted 17 July 2003 - 09:54 AM

Knowing that I am 'that type of a guy' it it isn't fairly easy/convenient I'm likely to put it off too long.
So I'm gonna use NuFinish. I think it's actually some kinda non-wax based stuff (polymer?)but, years ago it performed well in a CU test, it isn't picky about 'apply in the shade' (that can be an issue in Texas on occasion) and is a little less trouble than carnauda wax. Which will trap dirt in the heat of the South and West. I briefly considered a buffer but decided against it for the reasons stated above.
The show car guys like the Zaino bros. line of products.
Just depends on your level of enthusiasm for spending time on the appearance of your car.
From what I saw, the Mother's line of stuff seems pretty good too.

Carl
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Posted 17 July 2003 - 10:02 AM

I would stay away from Nufinish because it's quite abrasive. It's great however if you want to remove a top layer of scratched or oxidized paint.
Mothers is excellent and so is Maguires.

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Posted 17 July 2003 - 12:58 PM

Josh what was the wax you used, or use. I rember about 6 months-1 year ago you posted your legacy on here after you waxed it, it looked really great. You said you used some wax company I never heard of before. I need some of that stuff for my sube.

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Posted 17 July 2003 - 01:53 PM

I use zymol

Not the stuff you find in the autoparts store, the higher end stuff. I'd recommend getting it here www.emmonscoachworks.com/

You can read up more about zymol on their site www.zymol.com

Zymol gives an excellant shine, it's not the longest lasting wax, nor is it the easiest to apply. If your paint finish is not excellant, use another product to get it looking good, then if you use zymol on it, it should look really good. You need to follow all the steps for zymol as well. If it's the first time using it, you need to use their HD-cleanse, and when your done waxing, spray a light mist of water over the car, it helps to even out the shine.

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Posted 22 July 2003 - 10:30 AM

I agree with the Zymol. One huge benefit of it, no petroleum based products in it. So you won't have a huge headache when you are done, and you will smell like suntan lotion :)

I have found it lasts a couple months (I have waxed my car twice in the year I have had it) and does a great job of "cleaning" the car, i.e. taking off water spots, etc.

Doing the light mist of water and then buffing it gives it a very very nice shine.

I agree with the buffers, nothing beats a nice hand wax. It takes me about a day to wax my forester from top to bottom.

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Posted 22 July 2003 - 11:49 AM

I used the NuFinish on my other car and, except for the 'petroleum distillates' as mentioned above, it was a breeze to use. I doubt there are any abrasives in it as you pretty much just smear it on (um - an already cleaned and dry car) wait till it hazes and wipe off the dust. Can't feel any abrasives. Very fast and easy. Not perhaps super deep showcar finish but VERY nice inmprovement. Works in direct sun too. I'm gonna use it on my '03 OBW. Just thought I'd hold off as I have read new cars have finishes that may still 'cure' for awahile even after shipping. Might be a myth?

don't fear the NuFinish!

Carl
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Posted 22 July 2003 - 01:53 PM

vic se ,
what color is your car? Why does it seem fragile are you seeing lots of scratches and swirl marks?
As others have said hand washing is best hand washing your car is kind of like buffing your car only you take off such a minimal amount of paint that you would never notice over the course of 7 years of hand mitting your car its the same as having your car buffed, By a profesional once during that seven year period. When you hand wash you are just taking the top layer of dead paint off.
also use a chamois or synthetic chamois not towels to dry your car or one of those squegee things but buy a good one.
those waxes recommended were really good too. especially that zymol I use it 4 times a year on mine.
And remember "Wax on Wax off" :lol:
I had to do it "Daniel son"

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Posted 23 July 2003 - 06:16 AM

The water blade thing is awesome! I've been using it ever since it came out in 98 or around there.

It actually will have less friction then a towel will.

The original water blade was made by california car cover company.

californiacarcover.com/pr...asp?id=100

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Posted 03 September 2003 - 11:38 AM

Check out the products at Griotsgarage.com, I've been using their stuff for quite a few years now and am very pleased. Clay bar is a great product. They have 100% guarantee, if you don't like it, send it back for refund.

Tom




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