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#1351 Subafreak

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 08:43 PM

After all the shuffling around these past years I think Jesse has my dry sleeve 1400.

Jesse - refresh my memory please.

ctsuba might have one left. wagonsonly - outside chance too.


Non of those 1400 I got from you were dry sleeve. And non of them were good either. Thats why I ended up putting the 1600 in my car.
What did the dry sleeve 1400s come in?
I got one in the coupe, but I have no idea of it's condition or if it's wet or dry.

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 12:31 PM

2 port is non sleeved , 4 port is the one we don't want. They put the 2 port into the last Gen I Stage I 4WD wagons and as I know it they also put them in 1976 automatics .

Like I said , been a while since I went through that stuff. Maybe Danny took it and it ended up there with you.

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 02:57 PM

Hmm. One of thoes was a single port 1400. But I thought I had pulled the heads off it and it was a wet sleeve.

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 06:08 AM

The first 2 port EA63 motors were wet sleeve just like the 4 port version. Only those produced after engine # 914674 were dry sleeve like the EA71.

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 07:10 PM

Ah that is good information. :)

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 01:29 PM

Sux to hear about that Kost. I make trips from Socal to your neck of the woods if you happen to find one down here I'll bring up on a trip for ya. Good luck with everything and don't give up.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 11:27 AM

Holy Cow!

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...I think this motor was scraped at some point and the dealer drilled holes in it to scrap it...


Why they do Drilled those Holes? ... I Don't understand the Point...

That situation Sucks... I Hope that you'll find a Good Replacement but also I Believe that it could be Fixed if you send it to a Shop for an Aluminium Filling Welding / Resurfacing.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 01:36 PM

Why they do Drilled those Holes? ... I Don't understand the Point...


If he is right about the block being scrapped... then they drilled the holes because the engine block was not supposed to used again. It's only supposed to used for metal or as a door opener or paperweight, etc. The reason for scrapping could be for legal reasons.

I think you could get the matching cylinders re-sleeved with a steel liner and then run under-sized pistons. The side with the hole could have molten aluminum poured into where the back of the new sleeve sits. Then the rest of the block could be tapped and then threaded with a bolt. :) It's a low-power engine so the solution does not have to be crazy with the relatively low cylinder pressures...

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 12:44 PM

Thanks for your Kind explanation.



So, Kosta; What you Gonna Do? :confused:

Don't Give Up! ... your Project is Amazing and I'm sure that you will Make it Run Great; Either by Fixin' the Block or obtaining another one.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 09:13 PM

so im curious why do you need to run the same motor ? are you going for complete resto? is is there some mechanical reason you you need to run a 1400

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 08:58 AM

The FF1 needs the dual port heads. Without going back through this thread to find it, from memory the suspension design of the FF1 does not allow for later Subaru engines which have the single exhaust port at the bottom of the heads.

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 08:27 PM

Yes, holes drilled to insure the block was not serviceable because of tax write off (IRS). Unfortunately witnessed such destructive activities while working at a Suburu distributor back in '76. The warehouse guys were known to "dumpster dive" hoping to save parts. A lot of old 360 parts were lost when tax write-offs were taken on unsold parts inventory.

If he is right about the block being scrapped... then they drilled the holes because the engine block was not supposed to used again. It's only supposed to used for metal or as a door opener or paperweight, etc. The reason for scrapping could be for legal reasons.

I think you could get the matching cylinders re-sleeved with a steel liner and then run under-sized pistons. The side with the hole could have molten aluminum poured into where the back of the new sleeve sits. Then the rest of the block could be tapped and then threaded with a bolt. :) It's a low-power engine so the solution does not have to be crazy with the relatively low cylinder pressures...



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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:08 PM

Kosta hope you are finding a way around your setback. I keep looking in the upulits around here. I never know what might pop up.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 01:04 AM

If anyone else is interested in an FF-1, there is one for sale in South Bend:

http://southbend.cra...2666470350.html

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:42 PM

Air cooled motor doesnt sound promising
Cheers Thierry

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 03:46 PM

That Looks like a Local FF1 Wagon...


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No Such Air-Cooled engine, it must have a Tiny Radiator:


http://en.wikipedia....ru_1000#Engines

Also here's a Review of the FF1

http://www.uniquecar...subaru_ff-1.htm


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Posted 03 November 2011 - 03:48 PM

So, Kosta... How you are gonna Fix the Problem with your Engine's Block? :confused:

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 05:38 PM

So, Kosta... How you are gonna Fix the Problem with your Engine's Block? :confused:

No idea.

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 06:19 PM

No idea.


Was the short block sold as is?

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 01:08 AM

Was the short block sold as is?

Yes, it was a craigslist sale.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 01:52 AM

I'd have a new cylinder liner/sleeve installed. But that's me. All the rest of the guts are good?

JB Weld the hole:) I mean, after the sleeve is put in.


Yea, what to do?

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 07:16 PM

a good machine shop should be able to weld that hole up and then re hone the cylinder shouldnt cost much it would be just like repairing a cracked cylinder head

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 07:55 PM

I don't have the money for that now, and I still haven't disassembled it either.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 09:18 PM

i know that feeling (just got laid off) just a thought i had

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 01:33 AM

I know it would be a lot of work, but maybe this could be a possibility: http://www.ebay.com/...=item3a6c637f19 ?





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