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mmmm....300hp AWD in a 3dr Coupe...
Posted 09 December 2003 - 06:13 PM
...That's about what I want to end up with. Now THERE'S a car I could be naughty with!
Still determining the feasibilty of such a project.
Looking for info on swapping an EJ series engine into an EA82. The recipient will <hopefully> be a 3-door. (Depends on me aquiring said fine machine.)
I would like to use the largest EJ available <would that be 2.5?> as well as its tranny and driveline, or if not, at least the most common available, for finding parts... and then possibly build a custom twin turbo and FI system for it. I've read of reliability issues with the 2.5, is this true? Hell, maybe I can find an SVX 3.3 and Turbo THAT! :santa:
From what I've read so far, the 25 spline turbo manual OR XT axles will mate to an EJ trans... but how about their length? is the trans the same width <or close?>as an EA? Will the EJ rear diffy work with EA rear axles? The diff cases look similar. A custom rear driveshaft is necessary from what I've read.
I'm not really considering the 5x100mm hub swap, UNLESS its an absolute necessity, as XT's are a bit hard to come by around here.
Also, what cars should I be looking for in yards that would have the 2.5 or other appropriate EJ in them?
I'm still in the process of searching the archives... just wanted to throw the question out there.
Man, if I could do this... you bring the Honda... I've got the Knife and Fork!
Any appropriate info sources appreciated!
Posted 09 December 2003 - 07:35 PM
Posted 09 December 2003 - 09:31 PM
Posted 09 December 2003 - 09:39 PM
2.5 ltr does way better on the lower end side of things.
Posted 09 December 2003 - 11:30 PM
EDIT: Oh, the phase 2 EJ25 block is supposed to be the good one. There are some of us here who know how to ID one, Pleadies knows how. I think those are found in 99, or 2000 and up SUBARUs.
Posted 10 December 2003 - 12:21 AM
The STi tranny would also be your best bet too. Keep in mind, the new 6MT Subaru tranny is the first ALL-NEW Subaru transmission in over 20 years!! That's right, the WRX tranny is a really-updated version of the 5MT transmissions your EA82's use... The 6MT has double-cone synchros on all gears except 2nd, which has triple cones. That tranny is built to take a beating!
Posted 10 December 2003 - 12:28 AM
As for the Darwin, those awards are a little too counterproductive to suit my liking. But i'd sure as hell LOVE to join the 200plus Club out at the salt flats.
Not with this car, though.
Anywho, so far I get that a US Turbo Legacy would be my best bet for a donor for MOST parts. EJ22T...how similar is this engine to the phase 2 2.5? IE are they the same basic block/dimensions ie will the heads intake etc exchange?..this may be a non-issue, I just want to build up on my interchangability knowledge.
Now, Why won't the WRX engine hold up as well, out of curiosity? 280-300 is about my upper limit anyway, 'cause this is a light car... but I get that would be pushing a wrx?
I'm also guessing that these bellhousings all carry the same pattern. Did Turbo Legacies come in anything other than 4AT?Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks for the info all. I really appreciate it. I like to know what I'm getting into, parts and source-wise
As for being a little on the crazy side, well, I've always dreamed big with my other cars<shrug>... So Why The Hell Not with a Sube?
EDIT: thanks for the vote on the EJ22T. You posted as I was writing this... I think I know what I'm going to use, now That info on the 6MT is helpful, as well; I had no idea.
Posted 10 December 2003 - 07:58 AM
I should have read your last post. The second gen EJ25 is basically a first gen with SOHC instead of DOHC, they also seemed to have gotten rid of the piston slap problem that plaged the gen one. The EJ22T came with a 5 speed also.
Posted 10 December 2003 - 03:14 PM
I agree that the EJ22T is the better engine, but I think that I'd go with the slightly flakier EJ20T and be able to access the huge aftermarket. Not only new, but used. YOu can get some fairly good deals on used stuff for that engine.
Also, 300hp crank, or at the wheels?
Posted 10 December 2003 - 04:55 PM
Posted 10 December 2003 - 06:57 PM
I wasn't aware how interchangable the items were. Thanks Corky!
Posted 10 December 2003 - 07:35 PM
Now try fitting an EJ20 into an RX. See the difference?
Posted 11 December 2003 - 12:29 AM
Old chevys are really easy to swap/work/mod by comparison, because the engine management (on a chevy? now there's an oxymoron) was REALLY simple. Making those things go fast only took shoving the biggest engine/blower/header combo you could find in there, to an extent.
Now Subaru is another story. I like the creativity available to us: a plethora of flat engines, 4/5/6 speed manuals, turbos, sohc AND dohc, a fully indepent AWD suspension/drivetrain. Wow.
The only REAL challenge, is getting the damn beast to listen to you when you talk to it about electronics.
But, it can be done.
And I found out through a late night on the 'net, that Corky is absolutely correct. The aftermarket following for the WRX also applies to the Legacy in many ways. But the ej22t is a better engine in my eyes, now, simply because it's a closed deck block. I'm guessing that's why the WRX engine craps out at 300hp, because its an open deck.
Posted 11 December 2003 - 08:44 PM
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