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How's Your Hill Holder?


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#1 Subarule

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Posted 29 November 2007 - 11:45 PM

Mine gave up the ghost on my '86 GL 4 x4 carbed wagon years ago. I was wondering if anyone has had luck adjusting them (my Haynes, or maybe it's my Chilton's, indicates that they can be adjusted), or do they usually need to be replaced when they stop working?

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#2 Loyale 2.7 Turbo

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Posted 29 November 2007 - 11:49 PM

I didn´t have had any Troubles with the Hill Holders, except for a Broken Cable... Now my White Wagon has its Hill Holder Workin´ with an Older EA81 Hill Holder´s Cable, that is Larger than the EA82´s Cable, it goes near the Carb but Works OK.

No Adjustments so far...

#3 94Loyale

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 12:05 AM

The hill holder on my Loyale kicks rump roast, thanks for asking :) But the one on my 88 GL never worked, I tried adjusting it, but never had any luck...

#4 Gloyale

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 12:08 AM

They can be adjusted. 2 Lock nuts on the back of the cable.

8mm and 14mm IIRC(I know right????) And you do know you need to set the brakes firmly, before it will really hold.

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 01:21 AM

Mine works good, and never gets in the way, but is a leaker. (I should buy stock in a good brake fluid manufacturer, get some of my money back) :lol:

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 03:25 AM

Wagon's works... never hooked it back up on my RX after the swap.... need to get around to doing that... adjusting is easy, set on hill, clutch in brake on, in netural... let foot off brake, then see if it holds... no? tighter! Yes, but disengages high? looser!

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 04:14 AM

Out of the 5 'Rus I've owned, all worked. The old '86 BRAT leaked some, current '86 BRAT worked to good when I 1st got it.

I have a couple extra HH valves here, one EA-81, one EA-82. Not sure of differences between them, but if someone should want one, send me a PM.

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 10:01 AM

84 hatch, disconnected back in '94 as it leaks when in use, otherwise would still work if hooked up. I have heard they are re-sealable but don't want to go there. I was also told that thirteen years ago, parts may be an issue now.

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 10:56 AM

For all the subarus I have owned, and all I have driven, I have never actually had the chance to use a functional hill holder.:mad:

#10 Subarule

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 02:09 PM

For all the subarus I have owned, and all I have driven, I have never actually had the chance to use a functional hill holder.:mad:


Not too many hills in Texas, eh? :)

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 02:12 PM

Guess I need to get mine operational again. I do have a need for it fairly often. I'm good with the clutch and all that, but if the car has a Hill Holder might as well use it.

Doesn't sound difficult to get it going. Just didn't want to have to buy a new replacement.

Thanks.

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 02:15 PM

Not too many hills in Texas, eh? :)

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Thankfully, no. Thats part of the reason I haven't worried about the fact that none of my hill holders haven't worked.

Guess I need to get mine operational again. I do have a need for it fairly often.




Oh- - BTW, I spent 28 years in western WA. None of my hill holders worked there either. ;)

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 04:17 PM

Thankfully, no. Thats part of the reason I haven't worried about the fact that none of my hill holders haven't worked.

Oh- - BTW, I spent 28 years in western WA. None of my hill holders worked there either. ;)


???? I;ve never had one NOT work? They are easy to adjust. Calebz, I;m sure you know this, but the brake does need to be pushed down really firmly while the clutch is in to set it with enough forcef for the hill holder to work. Remember, it is only holding the pressure in the Left front brake line(one wheel locked). So you need to push approx 4 times the force that it takes to keep the car from rolling with you're foot on the brake(4 wheels locked).

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 05:43 PM

Mine works good, and never gets in the way, but is a leaker. (I should buy stock in a good brake fluid manufacturer, get some of my money back) :lol:


Hill holders are easy to repair....just replace the o-rings inside. Just make sure you use o-rings that are compatible with brake fluid. If I remember right, Viton o-rings are what I used 8 years ago and still not leaking.

EDIT: Just checked...Do NOT use Viton. Viton isn't compatible with brake fluid. I used EPDM o-rings as it is compatible with brake fluid.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 01:58 AM

???? I;ve never had one NOT work? They are easy to adjust. Calebz, I;m sure you know this, but the brake does need to be pushed down really firmly while the clutch is in to set it with enough forcef for the hill holder to work. Remember, it is only holding the pressure in the Left front brake line(one wheel locked). So you need to push approx 4 times the force that it takes to keep the car from rolling with you're foot on the brake(4 wheels locked).



Quite aware, thanks ;)

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 02:17 AM

Oh- - BTW, I spent 28 years in western WA. None of my hill holders worked there either. ;)


That's weird because I've never had one that didn't "function". All of them but the one on my off-roader (dangerous on that one) I have properly adjusted and they have worked fine. Even the one on my 94 Legacy works good.

Never had one leak either, but I've heard of it happening. Probably old, nasty fluid.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 03:09 AM

Remember, it is only holding the pressure in the Left front brake line(one wheel locked). So you need to push approx 4 times the force that it takes to keep the car from rolling with you're foot on the brake(4 wheels locked).


I always thought it held left front and right rear as they're on the same circuit. Wish I could test it, but i have no more working roos to mess with. When both of mine did run, the HH worked great.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 05:36 AM

I always thought it held left front and right rear as they're on the same circuit. Wish I could test it, but i have no more working roos to mess with. When both of mine did run, the HH worked great.


That's the way my BRATs are plumbed. When I 1st got the current '86 BRAT, it would drag the right rear until the clutch was fully released, if I stopped on a hill. Little bit of adjusting, and it's all better now.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 10:24 AM

Not too many hills in Texas, eh? :)

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Nope, no hills in Texas....

The hill holder on my legacy works fine, hae to adjust from time to time...

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 02:12 PM

Hello All. I'm really glad to have found this community! I love my car and hope to keep it rolling as long as I can...

My Hill Holder works really, really well and, so far, no leaks! Cant say that for the rest of her but with 230.000 miles on the clock that's to be expected.

Looking forward to getting to know y'all.:)

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