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What's the deal with the clutch problems?
Posted 17 June 2003 - 08:03 AM
Posted 17 June 2003 - 09:00 AM
Regarding the TSB's, I'm not sure exactly which models were covered...I know my 01 Outback was. Presumably, all the models with this drivetrain would have the same clutch (?) but I'm not sure. The WRX was named in the TSB, but there may be a restriction on build date. The actual TSB was posted somewhere on here if you search around.
Posted 17 June 2003 - 10:31 AM
Just look for a posting called "What's the verdict on the new Subaru Clutches?"
Test drive a 2002 OBW, then a 2003 OBW. I noticed a huge difference in how the pedal felt and people who've had the "upgrade" done say it's MUCH better and no chatter.
In fact, getting my 2002 OBW updated in July.
Posted 22 June 2003 - 03:44 AM
Posted 23 June 2003 - 09:22 AM
Posted 23 June 2003 - 10:45 AM
i wonder if all OEM clutches are gonna have this problem....
Posted 23 June 2003 - 11:03 AM
Posted 17 July 2003 - 08:34 PM
Posted 20 February 2005 - 01:42 PM
Posted 20 February 2005 - 03:01 PM
Was the replacement OEM? I just bought my '99 with a new clutch, I expect the shop that sold it to me went with cheapest parts, not OEM. They said the old clutch chattered badly.
I had my original clutch replaced (had 250,000 miles on it) and the new clutch has been exhibiting some of the chattering symptoms.
Posted 20 February 2005 - 08:04 PM
It was this site that saved my sanity when I realized I wasn't dreaming there was something wrong.
Some blessed soul posted a copy of the tech bulletin subaru sent to dealers a couple years ago and once I mentioned this to my dealer, they made good. I had b**ched about from 3000 mi to 20,000 when it was replaced.
They used a replacement "kit" which used the same parts as appeared in the '03 model year clutch assemblies. It was the new '03 clutch plate and some simple adapter studs & other hardware. Nothing too complex.
Many savy Subaru owners here have replaced their clutches with after-market ones and swear by them - may not be a bad thing.
Posted 21 February 2005 - 11:27 AM
It seems to go away when the engine is warm, so make sure you get to test drive on a completely cold engine.
Posted 23 February 2005 - 09:12 PM
Posted 24 February 2005 - 10:31 PM
I've been told Subaru took care of the problem in 2003, although some owners of 2003 Subaru's even complained (perhaps some clutches were leftover and used from 2002?? dunno).
I found a tech bulletin on this site, but it was nearly 2 years ago, that some generous person posted that talked about this problem and the solution was to use 2003 model year components. The friction disc part number was different than the one used in my 2002 Outback. Others noticed the same thing.
Perhaps even if you had your clutch replaced recently, it was an older stock item made during the era when Subaru was having these problems (end of the 1990's to 2002). Unless your Loyale can accept the clutch plate mentioned in the tech bulletin, it'd be difficult to determine if what you get is like the "new" one or not.
Posted 24 February 2005 - 10:36 PM
Once you had engaged/disengaged it a few times, it'd come out of it. People on the board had a number of gimmicks to get them by like riding the clutch once a week for several extra seconds. It'd stop doing the cold "shutter" for a few days, but it'd always come back. The cold and/or humidity always made it worse.
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