nytoy Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 I know, three very different cars, I'm looking at one of the three to be the winter beater / ice racer / rally x. Relability is the number one factor, the 2nd being performance and handling. Which would handle the best? I would think the Impreza given the huge aftermarket support. Stock vs. stock who would win? I always thought the Xt6 was the ruler of the older subarus untill I read all 27 pages of threads about the RX (yes the search feature works with "*RX*" to get around the stupid 3 letter rule) It seems like headgaskets and cv's/axles seem to be the common spots for the older subarus. Any advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. RX Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Impreza is the only choice, there are so much more after market stuff out there for them then the EA82 series (RX included). The XT6 is about the opposite, there is almost nothing out there for them. Stock for stock race, RX vs XT6 vs which Impreza??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WagonsOnly Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 EJ22T wins hands down for reliability and performance, and support (aftermarket and dealer). But personally, I don't think Imprezas have as much character as the older Scoobies. I'd go with an XT turbo, but an XT6 or RX sedan is a good low-budget ride. Stay away from the EJ18 if you're after performance and you do get an Impreza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis ex24 Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 EJ22T was never in an impreza...EJ22 was from 95? on. for reliablity and being able to withstand being beat on, and be driven home after the race - the impreza hands down. an RX is too unpredictable...i have a built-up XT turbo with the same drive as an RX and it never fails to leave me scratching my head...we have a love/hate relationship. i love it, it hates me...XT6s are an oddity all in thier own, and with that - parts cost $$$$$$. a 5spd EJ18 would still eat a stock EA82T for lunch, and most after market EJ25 and EJ22 stuff could be persuaded to fit this engine. it is essentially an EJ22, minus .4L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 They've been running the EJ22 since '90 in the Legacy and since inception of the Impreza I believe. The EJ22T will take the most abuse but I don't think they ever put it in the Impreza. And the Legacy is kind of big/heavy for rally. At least to compete with the Imp's and WRX's The 2.5RS Imp's are starting to come down in price. There are ton's of aftermarket support for those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nytoy Posted December 23, 2003 Author Share Posted December 23, 2003 Originally posted by WagonsOnly EJ22T wins hands down for reliability and performance, and support (aftermarket and dealer). But personally, I don't think Imprezas have as much character as the older Scoobies. I'd go with an XT turbo, but an XT6 or RX sedan is a good low-budget ride. Stay away from the EJ18 if you're after performance and you do get an Impreza. It'd would be an early Impreza, EJ18 maybe EJ22 in a perfect world, then a 2.5 swap later on. I kinda figured on the Impreza, while I agree, not a much character and cool stuff like locking diff's and D/R trannys, I would think have huge aftermarket support. Thanks for the other info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. RX Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 For those who think the Legacy is too big and heavy to rally, the first world championship that Subaru won was in a Legacy RS, which was running the EJ20G engine, like the one I put in Ultimate RX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegacyT Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Exactly Dr. RX, the Legacy turbo actually weighs less then a 2.5RS, let alone the wrx. The first gens are very nimble cars, they are only a tad larger then a GC or GD impreza. Mark, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 yosh's 90 legacy pulled my trashwagon out of the woods! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archemitis Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 but seriously folks... 80s subarus are cheap as hell, and imprezas are generally not. cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myxalplyx Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 What's this? No love for the XT6s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WagonsOnly Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 What about an EJ18 body with a blown engine and a totalled EJ22T Legacy for the engine? I meant swap in an EJ22T, so what if they never came from the factory that way? One of this board's members has an H6 Brat, for heaven's sake. XT6 has my vote. If I wanted a "fun" car for weekends (and my weekends didn't involve camping/tag saling/antiquing), that would be my first choice. But for general use/abuse, an Impreza wagon with a turbo powerplant swap would be fun, and the ultimate sleeper. (And the wagon has more weight over the rear wheels, too--better handling.) Please note that this is only an opinion, and that I probably won't own an Impreza for at least the next 5 years; have never had an XT6; and passed up on the only RX that crossed my path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 2 members have H-6 Brats. I see them do the sort of rallying he wants to do and they are not as competitive. I know that the original WRC cars were Legacy's. But, did anyone notice how fast they dropped it when the Impreza came out? If you put the Legacy and Impreza side by side and compare there really is no need for this discussion. The XT6 is a good option. The 2.2 turbo transplant is also a good option. You can turbo a 2.5 N/A motor. It is being done here Rallitek The car will aid you in performance but only seat time will make you competitive. If you go with a stock Impreza, even a 1.8, you will be able to run in the lower classes and gain experience before you force yourself into an open type class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WagonsOnly Posted December 25, 2003 Share Posted December 25, 2003 Who besides AdamNDJ has a Brat with an H6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTrooper Posted December 25, 2003 Share Posted December 25, 2003 subarubrat does... his site:http://www.subarubrat.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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