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Posted 24 December 2003 - 12:17 PM
Posted 24 December 2003 - 01:04 PM
Posted 24 December 2003 - 01:31 PM
These noises are often times attributed to gunky lifters that cant pump up the oil pressure they need to fuction properly (in which case the additive works), or a bad oil pump seal which would require some time in the garage...
anyhoo, get a service manual and some hand tools and see if you can tackle the oil pump seal on your own, and keep changing the oil and using a quart of additive...
Posted 24 December 2003 - 01:33 PM
Welcome to the board
Posted 24 December 2003 - 02:11 PM
Anyway, I drove my 86 for 3 years with ticks before getting the oil pump and seals replaced. Didn't seem to do too much damage. And I used to abuse it pretty bad too.
Posted 24 December 2003 - 05:02 PM
The ticking took me awhile to get used to at first, but I don't worry about it anymore. This is one case where you can throw everything you thought you knew about cars out the window. You know it can't be good, but nothing bad ever happens. Just keep the oil clean, and at the right level (if you have oil leaks - also commonin the EA82). You could try the additives,or different oil weights, but don't be dissapointed when the ticking returns.
A "check engine" light should ALWAYS be dealt with, but noisy lifters wont make this happen. Clacking or knocking is a different story. I WOULD worry if thats the kind of noise you're hearing.
I like CCR alot, and would reccomend them if you needed a newly rebuilt engine. I don't know that their prices are neccessarily cheap however (sorry Emily!!). But for a rebuilt motor, they give you the most bang for the buck, IMO.
A more important system to keep an eye on in the Subes is the cooling system. Get into the habit of watching your temp guage as you drive in different conditions.
I put a lot of miles on my cars, and wouldn't hesitate taking my Sube anywhere, anytime. If you get this car caught up on it's maintenance schedule, you'll have no reason to hesitate either.
good luck, John
Posted 24 December 2003 - 06:54 PM
The ticking is normal, should probably do the oil flush again, what addative did you use the 1st time? MMO does wonders.
These cars love road trips. Ive taken my 1984 GL Wagon from Sacramento to Seattle and back. Then again from Sacramento to Eugene Oregon and back. Both times i didnt have a single problem. And the valve tap on my EA81 is probably twice as bad as your original tap.
Do you ever take that thing off-road? Ever wanted to? Im always looking for more people willing to join me.
Posted 24 December 2003 - 10:28 PM
its cool to see all these cali heads poppin up from the woodworks..
Posted 25 December 2003 - 12:14 AM
Posted 25 December 2003 - 02:32 AM
Posted 25 December 2003 - 02:35 AM
Posted 25 December 2003 - 09:33 AM
my buddy's RX just started to do it, still holds strong oil pressure. nothing bad, if anything, clean the lifters by hand, he was going to build up his turbos on a carbureted block
if worst comes to worse, and you have the motor apart for other reasons (or for this reason for that matter) you can take the cam boxes off, and remove the lifters and clean them by hand
but its not anything that will keep you from a road trip. i mayself pulled a brave maneuver taking my ride cross country, broken axle in wisconsin, gas tank failure in so. dakota, but NEVER had a problem with the motor
if anything will leave you stranded is a broken timing belt, so you might as well want to replace your timing belts for good measure, and while at it, do the oil pump seal.
Posted 25 December 2003 - 12:57 PM
goto autozone, pepboys or whatever supermarket auto parts place you have out there and drop $200 on a new oil pump, water pump and timing belts...this is a 2-3 hour job to someone who has some wrench turning experience.
when you put the engine back together it will tick for 5 minutes then never come back...its easier to replace the pump rather than service it, and sometimes the shaft on the pump is scored and its not worth the trouble anyway.
Posted 25 December 2003 - 01:03 PM
with the lifters already out of the car, you might as well clean them. not hard to do at all.
Posted 26 December 2003 - 12:23 PM
Next oil change I will go with Castrol GTX 20-50 and the MMO but pre flush with a little ATF after draining a little out. The clearance is a little low on these things but for the most part it shreds thru the snow. Very happy with this car! I have an 87 that needs fixing and will get it going soon now that I know how cool these cars are.
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Posted 26 December 2003 - 07:46 PM
Posted 29 December 2003 - 06:37 PM
I usually take my suburban out wheeling up here but am into the idea of takeing this thing out. I am only 20 minutes from the entance to the rubicon. I'm up for meating fellow subaru heads in my area for wheelin anytime.
Posted 29 December 2003 - 08:58 PM
We're planning on going up there to board next tuesday. Im also planning on driving up to N.Tahoe to play in the snow thursday.
Posted 04 January 2004 - 04:35 PM
The snow (and the skiing) over the last few days has been awesome..3 days, 3 different resorts.
I think TSJ and some of the other "flatlanders" are planning on hitting Donner Ski Ranch this week..join us! (Brian, I'll PM ya shortly)
Posted 04 January 2004 - 04:55 PM
As for your lifter noise, my 91 Loyale gets that way when it's really cold out. But usually goes away when the motor warms up. I put some marvel mystery oil at my last oil changed and that stuff seemed to quiet my motor a bit.
Posted 06 January 2004 - 10:15 PM
Mine were clacking V E R Y loudly, to the point that people would stare at me at stop lights and I was asked several times when refueling if I had a rod knock or was my engine about to blow......
I drove it that way for 16 months.........I lost power and mileage, but never reliability.
I just went through the whole engine reseal, timing belts, water pump, remove cam cases, clean lash adjusters thing........it's a L O T of work to be sure, but I got a serious case of "might as well" syndrome and installed a clutch kit too..............Man, that new clutch is so smooooooth! My old one chattered.
All the advice given here is spot-on. Glad to see you are enjoying your car and it's uncanny off (and on) road abilities.
You won't be sorry if you do decide to tear into it; I know I learned a lot about my Sube, albeit the hard way.
Well worth the effort.
Posted 17 April 2004 - 09:24 AM
Doesn't seem to effect anything, not power nor mileage.
Posted 18 April 2004 - 01:41 PM
It took a few weeks, but the ticking is quited down; especially on cold starts......
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