kiwi subbie Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 im still thinking about doing this and i know it would cost alot off monney. i was thinking of transplanting an flat 6 and mayb 6 speed gbox plus drive line etc in 2 my brumby. was thinking of using the EZ30 engine. now some questions ive got are.... would the 6spd fit in to the brumby tranny tunnel or would it be to big and need mods to the tranny tunnel? has any one fitted an EZ30 to an brat/leone etc? an EZ30 should fit in to an brumby shouldnt it? i know the 3 is bit smaller than an 3.3 . and ive seen one brumby fitted with an EG33. mind you i could use an EG33 for motor coz ive got an whole svx as parts car to use. i just wanted to go with ez 30 since it was smaller and lighter. is there any thing else i need to know before i take on an project like this? Thanxs:burnout: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi subbie Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 heres 1 mpv or etc with svx engine in it for hubs etc i would get that crossbreed hub kit from oz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPGsuperchargedBrumby Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 from what i've heard the EZ30 is about 1 inch longer than an ej.....and my belt covers are just touching the back of the the thin'st electric fan i could find. going by the "only 1 inch longer than an ej" it should fit in....however you might have to do some fun fitting to sort cooling it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 To fix the radiator fan problem do what I done. http://offroadingsubarus.com/images/ej22swap_mazda_airconfan_stock.jpg http://offroadingsubarus.com/images/ej22swap_mazda_airconfan_fitted.jpg 86 Mazda 626 air con fan x2... As far as I know with no lift you can't fit the 5sp in without tunnel work. So I'd say you'd need extencive trans tunnel mods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi subbie Posted April 29, 2008 Author Share Posted April 29, 2008 that brat in the pic above, that has bit of an lift eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchsub Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 the EZ30 is a cool motor but if your thinking of going through all the trouble of a difficult swap like that why not do a STI swap and get 300 horses out of a brat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 the EZ30 is a cool motor but if your thinking of going through all the trouble of a difficult swap like that why not do a STI swap and get 300 horses out of a brat Maybe because the EZ30 is suppose to fit in the chassis rails of the EA81 car unlike the DOHC EJ's and EG's? Plus an STi has a whooping great big turbo which only brings power at high RPM. Where as a 3L flat 6 will give very nice low end torque. Power is useless unless its in the right place for the right purpose. Oh, but I bet it's because of mainly what the title to this post says "wanting to do something different to my Brumby" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi subbie Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 the EZ30 is a cool motor but if your thinking of going through all the trouble of a difficult swap like that why not do a STI swap and get 300 horses out of a brat well also if i went with ez30 and wanted to spend the monney ( like $15000nz ) rebuild motor twin turb it and get an nice relible 800bhp lol not that i would ever spend that much... but the possibly is there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zefy Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Maybe because the EZ30 is suppose to fit in the chassis rails of the EA81 car unlike the DOHC EJ's and EG's?Plus an STi has a whooping great big turbo which only brings power at high RPM. Where as a 3L flat 6 will give very nice low end torque. Power is useless unless its in the right place for the right purpose. this is why sti's come with 6 speed close ratio gearboxes. so it's in the right right place for the right purpose. on another note. you are talking about putting it into a gen2 correct? the eg33 is SOHC. the EZ30 is DOHC. if a DOHC EJ motor won't fit then the EZ30 won't fit either. (but that's what a hammer is for) the EZ30 is shorter than the EG33 because it uses a timing chain instead of a belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 the eg33 is SOHC. the EZ30 is DOHC. if a DOHC EJ motor won't fit then the EZ30 won't fit either. (but that's what a hammer is for)I think you'll find yourself wrong there. The EZ30 is a completely different motor to an EJ (unlike the EG's relation to the EJ) and even though it is DOHC it is "thinner" then the DOHC EJ's. No matter what gearbox you run, offroading with a massive torque curve a turbo engine like that gives would be a PITA. But if its just road driving it doesn't matter so much. The torque my EJ22 had over a mates EJ20 NA was very noticeable even on road and the EJ22 was a much nicer engine to get off the line on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi subbie Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 Maybe because the EZ30 is suppose to fit in the chassis rails of the EA81 car unlike the DOHC EJ's and EG's?Plus an STi has a whooping great big turbo which only brings power at high RPM. Where as a 3L flat 6 will give very nice low end torque. Power is useless unless its in the right place for the right purpose. Oh, but I bet it's because of mainly what the title to this post says "wanting to do something different to my Brumby" i actually didnt think of that, would it fit in between the rails? I tryed to get hold of some dimentions for the ez30 but know one was able to tell me what they were. i may just end up using my svx motor go with what i have. then thats means all i have to do is find me an 6spd and drive line etc... if an cheap ez30 turned up i probly grab it and use it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 I'm not sure if the EZ will fit between the EA81 or if it was the EA82 chassis rails. I know it fits between the EA82 (or I've been told that). I also know the EG33 won't fit in the EA81 without chassis mods. Theres been a few posts on here. But I've been around for three years and read a lot. Got no idea what post the right infos in. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooparu Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 This is the only boxer 6 I've seen in a brat. I think it's from and XT6. From what I can tell you might have to relocate the radiator. Images found on subarubrat.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchsub Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Oh, but I bet it's because of mainly what the title to this post says "wanting to do something different to my Brumby" Since when is dropping an STI motor in a Brat not being different? How many have you heard of? I can only think of a maybe one person that has done it on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Since when is dropping an STI motor in a Brat not being different? How many have you heard of? I can only think of a maybe one person that has done it on this board. I've seen pictures of 4 and heard of about 6 in Australia... And thats only the online world, there are so many people out there doing this stuff who don't use the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi subbie Posted May 2, 2008 Author Share Posted May 2, 2008 ive seen and heard of an few here doing the same thing in NZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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