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5SPD D/R transmission into '92 Loyale project


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#1 cmiller

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Posted 14 November 2008 - 01:33 PM

Well this afternoon I start the swap process. :headbang: I'm disconnecting and hopefully pulling the 5SPD S/R out of the Loyale by tonight. Then tomorrow put in the 5SPD D/R into it and road test. I will post pics as things roll along.

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here's the new transmission waiting to go in the Loyale. I put in new seals, new shift bushings, clutch bearing, dust boot, and tranny mounts. Can't wait to have it in!!

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Posted 14 November 2008 - 05:25 PM

Hi,

This very swap is in my near future. What year DR tranny are you using? I may use a '86 or an '89.

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Posted 14 November 2008 - 08:14 PM

Hi,

This very swap is in my near future. What year DR tranny are you using? I may use a '86 or an '89.

Doug

I pulled mine out of a '88 GL from the wrecking yard. Its in great shape and the donor car has 80,000 less miles on it than my Loyale.

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Posted 14 November 2008 - 08:17 PM

AND IT BEGINS!:clap:

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up on stands and front tires off.

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pulled the shifter and console out and moved the carpet out of the way. Next I'm disconnecting as much as I can on top of the tranny from under the hood. Then move the exhaust and drive line out of the way. More pics on the way!:popcorn:

Edited by cmiller, 15 November 2008 - 01:13 AM.


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Posted 14 November 2008 - 09:57 PM

http://www.ultimates...1&pictureid=260
Pulled off the skid plate and dropped the exhaust off of the block...

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Rear hanger bushings came off easy...

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But this one is stubborn, it won't budge...:Flame:

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Posted 14 November 2008 - 10:00 PM

big screwdriver through same hole as hanger,place flathead of screwdriver behind hanger end and pry off...........:Dcheers,brian

Edited by monstaru, 14 November 2008 - 10:02 PM.


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Posted 15 November 2008 - 01:28 AM

http://www.ultimates...1&pictureid=265
Pile of parts, drive shaft, skid plate, exhaust, etc...

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Everything disconnected from the transmission, driveline, front axels, etc... Now ready to drop the transmission, but I think its time to call it a night. :drunk:

Quick question, what are people doing with the two extra vacuum lines from the push button 4WD after they are disconnected? Don't really need them with the new transmission.

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 12:12 PM

Well, back at it again. Should go quicker today with my buddy helping out. :burnout:

Thanks for the tip Brian, it took some work to pop it off the hook.

Edited by cmiller, 15 November 2008 - 12:15 PM.


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Posted 15 November 2008 - 08:34 PM

http://www.ultimates...1&pictureid=267
Old transmission out...

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ready for the dual range

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putting in the dual range

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shift linkage and interior all buttoned up. Everything went in easy and without a hitch. :clap:

I just plugged up the vacuum lines from the old tranny, also I kept the Loyale shifter with the button. I dunno what to hook up to the switch. Any ideas? passenger ejector seat? air horn?...:brow:

Did the road test and man what a difference in 4 low!:headbang: Can't wait for some snow!

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 08:41 PM

You should make one of those things that shoots flames out the tailpipe.
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Posted 15 November 2008 - 09:59 PM

Congrats on completing project!!! Have fun!:headbang:

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 09:00 AM

nice work:drunk:

Hows this Sunday for wheelin ... Team CF and I are always out and about...let's go wheelin' !

Don't forget the HP X-mas tree run..!

I need to do the swap myself as my 4spd has a bad 3rd gear syncro and no hi range..

For the switch I would make it the turbo boost(Blower) switch ya know like the madmax intercepter...lol

Edited by scoobyclimbs, 17 November 2008 - 09:18 AM.


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Posted 17 November 2008 - 09:17 AM

"Any ideas?"

Well, duh. jk:)

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 11:11 AM

nice work:drunk:

Hows this Sunday for wheelin ... Team CF and I are always out and about...let's go wheelin' !

Don't forget the HP X-mas tree run..!

I need to do the swap myself as my 4spd has a bad 3rd gear syncro and no hi range..

For the switch I would make it the turbo boost(Blower) switch ya know like the madmax intercepter...lol

Nice!

I have to work this weekend. But I really want to see your new hatch. The tranny swap was much needed. Next I have to figure out a front bumper.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 03:19 AM

So I have an '85 with the POS 3 speed auto so I need a swap of this kind. I am curious if anyone knows about the peddle assembly and if any cutting of the firewall would be needed to fit a clutch peddle?

Thanks for any input available and congrats on the upgrade..

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 08:52 AM

So I have an '85 with the POS 3 speed auto so I need a swap of this kind. I am curious if anyone knows about the peddle assembly and if any cutting of the firewall would be needed to fit a clutch peddle?

Thanks for any input available and congrats on the upgrade..


No cutting necessary.
Just make sure you get all the parts needed for the swap.
Peddle assembly, clutch cable.
Complete running gear.
Make sure the rear diff ratio you get matches the tranny (3.9 for a 5spd D/R non turbo)

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 11:00 AM

No cutting necessary.
Just make sure you get all the parts needed for the swap.
Peddle assembly, clutch cable.
Complete running gear.
Make sure the rear diff ratio you get matches the tranny (3.9 for a 5spd D/R non turbo)


I did this swap as well and changed the whole dash board and harness as well and I also stole the manual seat belts out of the donor car as well!

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 09:51 AM

will an 83 - 87 dual range trans bolt right into a 91 loyale 5 spd?? i have dreams...

thanks,
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 06:12 PM

will an 83 - 87 dual range trans bolt right into a 91 loyale 5 spd?? i have dreams...

thanks,
john


It would with some mod, but are you talking about the 4 spd d/r? If so it's not worth it, the 5 spd is much stronger

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 09:49 PM

It would with some mod, but are you talking about the 4 spd d/r? If so it's not worth it, the 5 spd is much stronger


yes the 4 spd d/r, 83 - 87, i was just looking for the low range, off road. how different are they? the gear ratios appear to be close. is the loyale too heavy?

mostly i was wondering about the bell housing bolts. what kind of mods besides the hi low lever, trans mount, shifter?

is it possible/ practical to swap the 'dual range' section on to the loyale 5 speed??

Edited by johnceggleston, 17 March 2009 - 09:57 PM.


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Posted 18 March 2009 - 04:37 PM

You would probably need the drive shaft that went with the 4spd. The tranny itself is a lot longer than the 5 spd. And the lo range isn't as low as the 5 spd




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