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[edrach]

Due to the difficulty of finding hard data on sales of the Brats for my fight with the insurance company, I started keeping hard copy evidence of every sale for all the gen2 Brats that I could find. Ebay stuff is nice since it shows a final price, but craigslist and other sources always show the asking price and I never know if it really sold for that price or what price it actually sold for.

If you sell a Brat (or know somewhat who did) could you please send me an email with year, VIN#, miles, general condition, actual selling price, location (state or province is enough unless you want to add the city), and the date of sale. Add a link to ebay, craigslist or other on-line selling agency if you think it will help the database, send it to me at edrach at spamcop dot net. I would make it available to USMB members who are having a similar time convincing an insurance company of what the "real" value of their Brat is. Thanks.

If someone wants to start a database for other models, feel free, I'm limiting myself to gen2 brats only.

Perhaps this could be stickied.

[()__1337_CRAYOLA__()>]

Just Sold 83 Brat for $2,350 hope that helps you i can send you a copy of bill of sale and title if you want for records

[Twitch de la Brat]

I got a check from the insurance co. for $2,194?
For my rough condition brat.
Does this help Ed?
Hope so...

Twitch

[northguy]

I sold my 83 Brat that I bought from Richie for $2700 to a guy last year for $3,000 after some mods.

[milkman111083]

just bought a 85 brat in good shape with 93k, 4 speed, topper, new paint, no seats in bed for 2500$

[justinthesubie]

i bought a '87 brat for $1500 and limped it home with a busted CV axle! 290k had been wrecked and fixed in the"driveway" and needed love in many other places.. im about to sell it and hoping for $2000.. i mite get my money back out of it but just barely..

i was driving it and some guy outta nowhere told me about a '82 brat that his friend had.. it was sitting for 4 yrs.. an 80 yr old man got it when it had 5k mi.. BONE STOCK.. lil rust, 135k, jump seats and canopy! so im the third owner and offered him $1500 for it.. i put a EJ22T motor and 5sp dual range trans in it and i dont see myself ever letting go of it!!!

[Mr. Carb]

Ed, what did the insurance company say when you showed them the paper work involving my brat, which was far from mint condition, and they still gave me around 3900 for it? See picture below, thats what it looked like before it was totaled.

Edited by Mr. Carb, 21 June 2009 - 08:03 PM.

[edrach]

Ed, what did the insurance company say when you showed them the paper work involving my brat, which was far from mint condition, and they still gave me around 3900 for it? See picture below, thats what it looked like before it was totaled.

The adjuster went to two dealer's (one Subaru and one Chevy) and asked "what would you put it on the lot for?" One said $3000 and the other $3900; the average plus taxes, etc came to around $3900. That's the number I used for the small claims court action on my son's '82 Brat which we won handily. I should have asked for more!

I went back to State Farm on our "pristine" '84 Brat and asked for a re-evaluation. I've got paperwork from them putting the value at between $5000 and $6000.

If anyone has a clean, rust-free, running gen2 Brat, it might be a fine investment.

Edited by edrach, 25 June 2009 - 08:26 PM.

[555jay]

I can give you three prices for mine: 83 BRAT GL Turbo

I just paid $1700 for it in non-running condition. I swooped it up from a repair shop that had it for a while and the owner got fed up and wanted out of it.

I was told that this shop's corporate office paid out the owner $3100 for it. Not real sure how they got to that price.

Also, when the owner signed the title over to the shop, he left in the same folder a printout of the eBay auction where he'd won it in Dec '08 for $2300.

[afoste2000]

Here is a web address that shows production by year for all subarus
http://www.cars101.c...u_archives.html

[Yo'J]

Wow! 1988 had 12 brats made and 89 had one! Thats a rare score there! My 87 is one of 1274, less than the first year they came out.

[TIMBERTIGER]

i bought my 86 brat for $1,400 from the original owner who was asking $1,800. only 113k, rust free and not even a crack in the dash. still has the factory floor mats and tool kit. this thing is cherry. i kind of feel bad for taking advantage of the old guy but that goes away every time i get behind the wheel:) . i also have a 82 brat gl that i bought for a 100 bucks that has been through 3 deer and sunk in a pond. best hundred bucks i ever spent. i drive her to work every day.

[MaddCelt]

Here is a web address that shows production by year for all subarus
http://www.cars101.c...u_archives.html

I know this is a bit off topic but I am curious. According to Wiki it is said that the body style was restyled in 81. According to this link 5553 were produced that year. Anyone know the stats of how many were of the old style?

I ask because a guy I got parts from said something about it being rare and I should not get rid of it.

[skishop69]

I stole mine 6 years ago for $1200. It was cosmetically challenged, but easily rectified. I cleaned the carpets, had my buddy recover the seats and resealed the engine. Had a guy offer me $3000 for it last 4th of July when we were cruisin around the woods (FS-7020). I've fought the insurance companies before on stuff like this. You're going to have to write up a very good fact based eval. They will only change the price with included hard evidence. Your best bet will be the Evil Bay sales you've been recording. You pay and pay and pay these *sses and when it comes time to collect what's due, you get to take it up the tailpipe with no dinner or good night kiss!

[Qman]

I know this is a bit off topic but I am curious. According to Wiki it is said that the body style was restyled in 81. According to this link 5553 were produced that year. Anyone know the stats of how many were of the old style?

I ask because a guy I got parts from said something about it being rare and I should not get rid of it.

The body change was for the 1982 model year. The 1981's had 1800 and dual range 4sp.

[DUBSnSUBS]

Paid $1900 for my 85 BRAT with rotten tires, a worn out carburetor, and other issues needing attention. Can send you a pic if you need it.

[Mr. Brat]

I called my insurance company a while ago and asked them about full coverage. Needless to say, my brat is fully covered with the value set at 7K. That is the number I gave them and they honored it without any proof of investment or pictures.

Just letting everyone know what they might be able to do.
Andy

[biker921]

I bought my Brat several months ago for close to $4k. It was on the high side, but it is in pristine shape. 1987 never looked so good (in car form)!

[scole665]

I purchased a 1986 BRAT with about 214K on it. No rust at all. Bad CV joints and a small oil leak. Given the body I figured I got a decent deal on it @ $2500.00. I just have to work on fixing all these problems now so I can make it a $4000.00 car. However, I think they'll pry this thing out of my cold dead hands.

http://www.flickr.co.../in/photostream

[BratWarrior]

My 1984 BRAT GL cost $2000. Good body, good paint, minimal rust, beat up bumper and tailgate, extra set of steel wheels, extra door, good interior.

[islandjon]

Alright no one smack me, but I picked mine up for $650. Its an 85 and running at 193K miles. The seats were rough, some rust in the normal places, a bed box, and an extra set of winter tires on rims. Talk about a deal.

[edrach]

I stole mine 6 years ago for $1200. It was cosmetically challenged, but easily rectified. I cleaned the carpets, had my buddy recover the seats and resealed the engine. Had a guy offer me $3000 for it last 4th of July when we were cruisin around the woods (FS-7020). I've fought the insurance companies before on stuff like this. You're going to have to write up a very good fact based eval. They will only change the price with included hard evidence. Your best bet will be the Evil Bay sales you've been recording. You pay and pay and pay these *sses and when it comes time to collect what's due, you get to take it up the tailpipe with no dinner or good night kiss!

Currently, I have a letter from my insurance carrier with a valuation of $6K for my '84 very clean Brat with under 120K miles on it.

As to fighting with the insurance company, that might be the case. We wound up suing the taxi driver that rear ended my son's '82 after the insurance company refused to budge on their offer of $475 for it and totalling it. After almost three years (statute of limitations was looming) we filed suit in small claims court and produced documentation that averaged $3400. Taxi driver refused arbitration (dumb) and had ZERO counter to our claim other than he didn't think it was worth much (i.e. no written documentation). Judge awarded us the entire $3400 plus expenses for filing. It cost us time and effort and was well worth it. We still have the '82 since the insurance company didn't want the hassle of disposing of it and the title is still good.:burnout:We'll be cleaning up the rust and finishing the 5 lug wheel conversion soon (I hope).

[tundrabrat]

Picked my 85 with a nice topper, minimal rust (great 15 footer), 2 complete set of wheels and 3 complete engines. $400... Spent nearly that much getting my jump seats up here.

Drove it all summer and currently restoring it this winter (off the road currently)

[Miatadude]

I picked up an 82, some rust on passenger side, with lots of spare parts...new crate motor, spare short block, extra set of wheels and 3 large bins of parts for $3400.

[kiwishooter]

Now I know this isn't in the US but I've seen a few sell in New Zealand for around $5000.00 I've also seen a few one owner ones list on the local auction site for around $10,000.00.

Mine owes me more than that last figure.......Kiwi