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93 Legacy L - Needs Clutch & Advice
Posted 16 August 2009 - 10:06 PM
What I would like to know is (1) whether I should order the kit myself... from a place like www.rockauto.com or www.partsgeek.com perhaps. (2) What brand and price is recommended, since they seem to run anywhere from $160 to $250 (not counting the $400+ kits!). And (3) is the 8-7/8" kit the one I need?
Thanks a ton in advance guys! This is now officially the newest car I have ever owned... lol .
Posted 17 August 2009 - 05:06 AM
Posted 17 August 2009 - 05:51 AM
I get the Valeo ones and pay like another 20 bucks to get the one with all American and Japanese parts. For 20 bucks less you get parts from all over the world in the kit.
Valeo is a major OEM supplier. I used to obtain most clutches loacal in a kit named "Rhino Pak" and the actual clutches (and some other components) were Valeo it's just on Ebay they are much cheaper.
I always get the flywheel surfaced - but a lot of folks don't.
Edited by davebugs, 17 August 2009 - 07:56 PM.
Posted 17 August 2009 - 06:44 AM
Edit: So here's a couple I found that have a good price but lack some info. First this one (link) just says it's "OEM Japanese," and then this one (link) which is "Phoenix Friction" but states it could be made by one of the other major manufacturers. Either one of these worth considering? The latter is cheaper, so as long as it's made well it would be a good deal...
Edited by mentis, 17 August 2009 - 06:53 AM.
Posted 17 August 2009 - 07:13 PM
EDIT: Actually found another kit, by Exedy, on Amazon for the lowest price yet... link. So what do you guys think, this Exedy kit or the Phoenix Friction one on eBay???
Edited by mentis, 17 August 2009 - 07:41 PM.
Posted 17 August 2009 - 09:33 PM
Depending on the miles would replace clutch fork, the ball stud wears through and back apart everything comes to fix it. I got the LUK kit last time from Pep Boys, and INCLUDED the "dealer only" throwout bearing to fork clips that ALWAYS get lost,. Also look at flywheel, if glazed take out and get turned.
Posted 17 August 2009 - 09:43 PM
I was hoping to find some info online about these brand and/or the various manufacturers, but so far I've turned up nothing. Only thing I keep getting is a bunch of auto parts sites that claim they have what you want in the search result until you actually go to the site :-\.
Posted 17 August 2009 - 10:23 PM
Posted 18 August 2009 - 07:12 AM
Posted 18 August 2009 - 12:49 PM
Posted 18 August 2009 - 08:24 PM
I think you are over-thinking the clutch selection. Disc and pressure plate failures are incredibly rare. Get whatever is in your budget anc makes you comfortable - just don't cheap out on the bearings. If it is cheaper to buy a whole kit and then round file the cheap bearings then so be it.... it is incredibly frustrating to have to go back in to replace a failed TO before the clutch has reached the end of it's life because you then may as well do the whole shootin match again... thus my goal is always to avoid premature bearing failure at all costs. Buy those at the dealership if you can't find any other source you trust.
Posted 19 August 2009 - 08:12 AM
Regarding the bearings, would you elaborate why filing a "cheaper" bearing would make it better? I am considering ordering the bearings from 1stsubaru.com, on account of them carrying the same OEM parts as the dealers if I'm understanding it correctly. I'll compare their online prices to what's available locally and we'll see what the difference is .
Posted 19 August 2009 - 12:02 PM
Posted 19 August 2009 - 09:33 PM
Or as my boss would say..... "That's a gozinta.......... gozinta the trash!"
Posted 19 August 2009 - 09:35 PM
Checked the local dealer today, and they said that I've got a free floating clutch which doesn't use a pilot bearing. Just wanted to run that by here to confirm...
That's true - I am more used to the EA clutches where there is a pilot in the flywheel - my mistake.
Posted 20 August 2009 - 11:48 AM
However, I wanted to make sure before ordering the bearings from them. Any other way that I can confirm whether I need the pilot bearing on this one?
Posted 20 August 2009 - 12:22 PM
I suggest you asses the condition of the fork boot and get another. Might also be a good time to change the clutch cable.
Posted 20 August 2009 - 01:36 PM
Posted 20 August 2009 - 06:16 PM
Posted 20 August 2009 - 06:27 PM
One is the "all models, w/o justy" for under $9 and the other is the "all models, w/ justy" for under $17. The part number listed by lostinthe202 refers to the first one. Going by the description, the second one should also work and I'm wondering if there is any point in spending an extra few bucks on that? I wouldn't care with it being such a small difference if it meant the bearing was better...
But as GD said before, I'm over thinking this and it probably doesn't matter all that much... .
Posted 20 August 2009 - 06:45 PM
On the other hand, following the catalog diagrams for a 2wd legacy L, the part number given (listed below the diagram) is 806212020 which if plugged into one of the online parts catalogs gives you the "all models w/o Justy" bearing. I'd go with the part number myself.
Posted 20 August 2009 - 07:23 PM
I'd go with the part number myself.
unless you need it yesterday, i'd call one of the online dealers and give them your vin # to be sure.
question: is the pilot bearing the part that requires NEW CLIPS? i have that they are required, but i don't know what for, i only do auto trans.
Posted 20 August 2009 - 08:09 PM
Posted 22 August 2009 - 08:05 AM
As it turns out, the manufacturer for this kit is Daikin. Also, seeing that the components were made in Japan made me feel better about the purchase. Going on GD's recommendation, I ordered OEM bearings and won't be using the ones in the kit. I also opted to order clips and the fork. Might as well get that done while we're at it .
Don't know how fast of a delivery to expect from 1stsubaruparts.com, but those bearings should be here sometime next week. I'm looking forward to getting this done and driving my new Sube!
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