pickup-bob Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 as above i have 1995 brat and got chance of an xt turbo , does the engine fit straight in and does it fit the brat gearbox? want to keep brat gearbox so its manual, thanks in advance allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 wish we got 95 BRATS here. would give my right leg and a lung for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickup-bob Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 lol, thought you got them as old as 95, mine is one of the last in the uk, have got an 88 94 and a 95 now , and a 85 and 84 for spares its getting silly now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubaruJunkie Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 The united states only got the Brat until 1987. The turbo engine in the XT has overhead cams, and is wider than the engine in your Brat. They have been swapped before, so I know it can be done. But I believe you have to do some trimming to make it fit. It should bolt right up to your tranny. However, the turbo motor requires a ECU so you have to swap all the wiring and computer with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Not to mention he would need an EA81T engine cross-member to clear the turbo up-pipe. Not worth the trouble as the engine makes less power than the EJ22 (probably EJ20 in the UK) and is more difficult to fit into the Brat. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickup-bob Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 a right , mmm bad idea then, take it the ej22 is the impreza engine , is it a big job putting one in a brat? or has it been done without much trouble, cutting and welding isnt a problem for me , just setting out the geometry of it is a bit worrying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 there's little difference between the XT Turbo swap and the EJ (correct - impreza/legacy engines) swap. either way you have to swap the wiring and computer. EJ swap will require an adapter plate to be made since the bellhousings are different. but that's been done a zillion times and they can be bought or made. and other than that they drop right in, engine mounts line up and all that jazz. the EJ engines are far more reliable and probably give you as much or more power than an XT. the old turbo motors are not a good fit without almost rebuilding them entirely. heads are prone to cracking, not a great platform design to begin with, headgaskets often blow, all the coolant, hoses, gaskets, radiators..entire cooling system should be replaced by now due to the extra stress and heat of a turbo. and oil supply lines, etc, just not worth it really. the EJ engines are even good for low boost if you wanted to turbo or supercharge it. swaps are covered in detail here and have been done by multiple folks, so you'll have all the resources you need either way you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 No cutting or welding required - you buy an adaptor plate (there are several folks that make them), redrill an EA82 flywheel and bolt it up to the existing transmission. The engine mounts basically line up - there's some fitting to do with the radiator fans as they have to be moved in front of the radiator, and then the radiator hoses have to be adapted to the older radiator. Then it's just wiring to piggy-back the fuel/ignition system to the car's existing harness. Pretty easy 135 HP swap. Although I think most of the Legacy/Impreza engines in the UK are EJ20's. The US market got the EJ18 and the EJ22. I think the UK market mostly got the EJ15 and the EJ20. They only got the EJ22T in the 22B impreza (rare and expensive). GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 there's little difference between the XT Turbo swap and the EJ (correct - impreza/legacy engines) swap. There is a LOT of difference. The EJ swap does not require modification to the engine cross-member to clear the turbo exhaust, and the EA82T is too wide to fit between the frame rails - the drivers side rail has to be cut and boxed in, and the hill holder has to be moved. No major mechanical changes like these have to be made to fit the EJ's as they are narrower than the EA82. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 my bad, i didn't mean little difference technically so much as time commitment. build an adapter plate and swapping a cross member seemed roughly comparable in terms of time. now as for cutting...yeah that sucks, i thought it was only the XT6 engine that required that. cutting a frame rail would deter myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickup-bob Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 can see now ej is way to go, so fiting the turbo version would be as easy as the non turbo? and where can you get the adapted plates for the gearbox or is it just as easy fiting the ej gearbox and getting a prop manufactured up? thanks for help guys really appreciate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Turbo's require a different engine cross-member that has the proper clearance for the up-pipe. I don't know if you guys got the turbo Brat's, coupe's and wagon's in 83/84 - if so you need an engine cross-member from one. We got them here in the US but they are rare. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backinbrat Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 wow, the chance to get EA82 in the UK, i think ive only seen it once! and that was non turbo i would get hold of the engine if you can anyways especially if you can get the rest of the bits to go with it, theres somone with a truck bout 15 miles away from me with a EA82T conversion, it was on ebay a few years back keep hold of it, and i might have it off you one day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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