Were also a Mastercraft/ Cooper dealer.. What they are producing now for snow is pretty much garbage. The Glacier Grip II ( Weathermaster ST/2 ) is replaced by the Glacier Trek ( Copper Evolution Winter ). The MSR/ Discover M+S has no replacement as of right now although the MSR is pretty much out of production and the Discover M+S is getting hard to get. Half the MSR's have a noticeable wobble and we have sent back more than a few of them that were not usable .. At this point just don't buy it. The Glacier Trek/ Evo looks ok but it's just meh really. There not too much cheaper than better brands.. The summer/ All seasons like the LSR's really are not that bad, for now.