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About larry3.14

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    newberg or
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    search engine looking for conversion problems
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    experienced shade tree mechanic talented metal fabricator
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    85 brat
  1. larry3.14

    SOB (save our brat)

    I want to start off by saying thank you for the responses. So if I switch the signal and ground wires back to the way they were the black wire (number two position) is grounded. About eight inches up in the harness it branches out with what looks like a factory connection and grounds. Then the white wire is signal and it is in the number one position. This has me perplexed since it is transposed form every ecu pinout I have found. Also wired this way idle circuit seems to work fine but the signal wire is messed. Causing a good idle but no throttle response. So I want to ask another question about the tps idle circuit. When using my jumper harness and connecting the wires following my ecu pinout information (transposing the ground and signal from how I received it) I get the constant voltage from the idle pin. So my question is. Is the tps supposed to supply voltage to this pin when the throttle opened? Or is the voltage supplied from the ecu and the tps is supposed to ground it when the throttle is closed? If the tps works by grounding the supplied voltage from the ecu Then maybe all four of my used tps sensors are bad....Possible but seems unlikely. Oh I want to add the way I received the car the white and black wires don't just change colores with eachother when passing through a plug. The black wire in the number two position was in fact grounded.
  2. larry3.14

    SOB (save our brat)

    I wish I had that information. From what I have seen at the wrecking yard it is out of a 90-94 wagon obd 1 four wire tps
  3. larry3.14

    SOB (save our brat)

    So I inherited a 85 brat with a ej 22 conversion. After many hours and several small repairs including a idle air control cleaning I am having a problem with the tps. I started tracing wires back to the ecu and found a problem with the tps power and signal wires. The information I have found on the internet claims pin 58-2 to be the signal wire. white wire at the tps sensor however it is black at the ecu and was clearly grounded in a harness which appeared to be factoryish. The opposite was true for the ground wire, black at the tps and the b58-1 pin has a white wire. My next step was to make a bypass harness for the tps/idle four wire set up. I grounded pin 58.1 and ran a wire back to the tps black wire (position 4). The red wire voltage seems good at 4.7 volts (position 3) I left it alone. I connected a wire to pin 58-2 and ran it back to the white wire (position 2) on the tps. Which leads me to the problem I am having now. Set up like this it seems to run well with the exception of a high idle. Good throttle response anyhow. So I turned my attention to the idle switch wire, brown and on pin 56-6 (position 1) on the tps. I reads a constant 4.7 volts. The voltage originates from the ecu and not the tps. Removing the plug from the computer and testing pin 56-6 I get 4.7 volts. So my question is. should there be voltage at the idle switch and the tps works by grounding it out when the throttle is closed? Or am I getting some kind of feedback through the ecm because of the shotty harness install? Is there something else hooked to the idle circuit that might be causing this? Is the info I have on the ecu pinout incorrect? Just chasing my tail at this point. Please help.