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Gromit

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  1. Yep, that is what it was. Even though I thought I was getting the original o-ring reinstalled square and tight with the repaired cap, it still was not sealing perfectly. Some kink unseen or defect in the o-ring was bleeding off pressure. Replaced the o-ring and viola - the pump primed right up to 48psi and it fired on all six without the bucking and carrying on. Higher pressure than I had hitherto seen to date. Also it held pressure once the ignition was turned off, which it would not do before. Not perfectly as there was a weep at the pressure gauge fitting, but clearly on the right track. Plumbed it back to original and letting the spilled fuel evaporate off so I can check it for any leaks. -Doug
  2. My 2003 H6 Outback had a fuel pump failure. By the time I put a pressure gauge in the line it was only managing 15psi and shortly after that was down to 5psi and wouldn't start. It was registering a code for lean mixture on both cylinder banks. Symptoms, while it was still running, were it would start on a few cylinders and then eventually the rest would chime in. With the fuel pump replaced in the sender unit, the pressure gauge read about 32psi. Various online sources reported the typical fuel pressure of anywhere from 35 to 75psi! The car would start, but as before only on three cylinders and then after half a minute of dramatics the rest would eventually kick in. The car seemed to drive fine, though one time it started to hesitate pulling away from a light and I turned right around an headed back home. It did not inspire confidence for a longer trip. It is not registering any error codes in memory since I replaced the pump. I should also mention I verified the cranking voltage was fine. Thinking perhaps the fuel pressure regulator was dumping pressure at too low a value (i.e. 32psi), I replaced that but it made no change in the pressure. I had read that the vacuum signal to the same modified the pressure , but pinching off the vacuum line to the valve made no difference to the pressure. It is a little too inaccessible in-situ to pull the vacuum line (if you have replaced one, you know what I mean!) The only alteration to the fuel pressure that I noted was after a minute or two of warming up, the pressure would suddenly drop from 32 to 28psi and stay there, as if a relay kicked in. Thinking the aftermarket pump was a dud, it was replaced but the pressures were identical. Fuel strainer and the fuel filter in the engine bay were also replaced. One other thing I noticed when changing the fuel pump was that on the fuel sender unit there is a canister that had a crimped on tin bottom cap (see attached). One of the crimps was cracked and the bottom was sitting crooked. I have no idea how long it had been line that. As it had an o-ring, clearly it was intended to hold pressure. I put it back the best I could and got the pressures mentioned previously. Thinking perhaps that was not good enough, today I took the cover off again and welded the crack in the crimp tab and was able to latch the cover on securely and square. Fuel pressure is now only about 15psi. So I am thinking despite being careful with the o-ring under the tin cap, it is not pressure tight. Less so than before when it was practically falling off! I am not sure exactly what the chamber does, but it seems to be in the fuel delivery circuit. Besides that, which I am going to have another go at tomorrow, anything else that would cause low fuel pressure? And does low fuel pressure in folk's experience typically cause starting on just a few cylinders before the rest chime in? Though, why would the rest chime in and it not throw a lean code? Is 32psi enough, or is the aftermarket pump(s) not delivering enough pressure for starting conditions? Further, I would add the problem manifested itself suddenly. I was out for errands, stopped at the bank, and had a hell of a time getting the car started again to limp home. I had just come from the gas station and topped up the fuel tank, so initially I though I had taken on a bad tank of fuel and spent a day draining and replacing the fuel (no improvement) before I thought to put a pressure gauge in the delivery line and discovered the fuel pressure was low. Before that it never hesitated to start on all six, cold or hot. 160k miles. -Doug
  3. I had this issue with a 2003 Outback. I was able to get a cup of water to drain through it, but after an extended rain I would still have a puddle in the rear cargo mat. Where the rubber tube from the sunroof terminated in the fender area, it is pushed into what looks like a rubber molded funnel with a 90 degree bend out through the inner fender wall. The end of the tube is cut on 45 angle. This was stuffed to the bottom of the funnel and the angle on the end of the tube was a perfect match for the angle of the funnel. That and perhaps a little dirt, would be enough to get the end of the tube to seal closed against the wall of the funnel or at least restrict the drain. Pull the tube back out (up) slightly, or trim the end of the tube a little, so that it does not jam all the way into the bottom of the funnel.
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