bratclay Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I have a 4speed d/r that I was goin to put in my turbo brat. Everyone here is sayin go with a 5 speed d/r. Do I need to change bell housin on the motor from a ea82 onto my ea81t to mount a 5 speed d/r? Also I only have the linkage from the 4 speed d/r cuz it our parts car. I would need the 5 speed transfercase linkage and lever too rite? I like the look of it better anyways. Does anyone have a lever and linkage lyin around? Thanks for every ones help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratman18 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 The tranny will bolt right up to the motor. You can't just change the bell housing anyway. You will need to modify/make a crossmember. And the linkage can be modified to work. You will also need a 5 spd drive shaft, which means you'll need to weld on center bearing mounts. This swap has been done may times, and there are write ups on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratclay Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 I have the cross members for the 4 speed d/r and drive line and rear end. Maybe Ill just do the 4 speed for rite now considerin I have everything for that and in the future do the 5 speed d/r. Thanks for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratman18 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Yeah the 4 spd tranny crossmember and driveshaft and the 5 spd one are completely different. But the 5 spd is a much better tranny!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratsrus1 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Hi Clay This is Jerry, i make a 5 speed kit for your brat call me and i can let you know what all you need 1-509-952-2855. Thanks Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooparu Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 the 5 speed is actually shorter then the 4 speed. I think you'll have to have a custom drive line built. If I'm not mistaken the BRAT and Hatch have to have a custom drive line & the wagon can use the 5 speed drive line (if you weld the carrier bearing in place). Here's the one I had made for my Hatch: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratman18 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 ^Actually the Brat has the same wheelbase as the wagon. I have a 5 spd swapped into my Brat and I just used the driveshaft that came with the 5 spd tranny. Perfect fitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooparu Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 ^Actually the Brat has the same wheelbase as the wagon. I have a 5 spd swapped into my Brat and I just used the driveshaft that came with the 5 spd tranny. Perfect fitment. I think you are correct. I couldn't remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibs Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Hey pooparu, do you remember the length needed for the one piece driveline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyeights Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Call Jerry to be sure, but I specified 51" of tubing when I had mine made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratsrus1 Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Hi This is Jerry, on the 5 speed swap over the drive line is 48 inches of tubing on the hatch back and all other EA81 it is 51 inches of tubing. Thats just the tubing not counting the ends because alot of people measure then differently. Thanks Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratclay Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 Well I had a custom clutch made for my brat swap. I only had a 4sp d/r so I had some kevlar put on my clutch and resurfaced cuz I didnt have the 5sp d/r parts car to go with. Well just today we got a 88 with 5sp d/r. So now I have a built clutch for the 4sp but I wanta do the 5sp cuz everyone says that its alot better. So can someone tell me exactly what I need to do. Which flywheel do I need. The 4sp or the 5sp. Cuz I know they are offset differently. Cuz If I have everything I need from my parts car I will just do the 5sp swap instead. I do know Ill have to find a way to get the center carrier mount on my brat. Thanks for all your help. Subi gang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crockettbrat Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Hey there: Haven't posted in a long time. You should look here http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=49952 There is tons of info on this swap, just search in the transmission section of the usmb repair section and you should contact Jerry. His kit is great and worth the $. I've got 25k miles on my ej swap and did the 5sp at the same time using his kit. Way better than the 4sp. Good luck. Daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratsrus1 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Hey Bratclay This is Jerry, call me tomorrow i can let you know what all you need 1-509-952-2855. Thanks Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratclay Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 Ok Thanks Jerry. I will difly call you tomorrow. Im goin to be swaping ea82 motors in my girls loyale. But I will try and call you in between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratclay Posted December 17, 2010 Author Share Posted December 17, 2010 Thanks Jerry for all your help. I mite just get one of those crossmembers off of you. Pm me what your asking for one. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xman Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Jerry's prices can't be beaten. I just got my 5sp D/R into my 86 Brat with Jerry's help and could not have imagined doing it myself. I mean I could have but it would have cost me more in materials and lots of time to do it. Good luck and watch out for the rual range actuator rod, it rotates in the housing and if it is 180° off it won't shift out of 4WD, ask me how I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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