Scott in Bellingham Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Got a 2000 Outback wagon its Blue/gold Looks like your wagon Gregg what year was yours ? 5 speed 2.5 EJ single cam engine 16" alloy rims I got it to make up a lift kit as I dont have the newer style 2000+ style with the multi link rear suspension its got a good engine, the trannys in the back seat rear sections all tore apart looks like a bad central Diff, after I make a lift for it I just might fix er up for a new wheeler, if so I may drop in a Dual range and add some mudders, got a few questions, will 15" wheels fit on this baby? as all my mudders are 15" , also I have a older 5 speed from a 91 Leg Wag would that bolt right up and use the same driveshaft? I noticed it has a hydrolic clutch release , would that work on a older trany? also whats the rear diff ratio? also whats the largest tire that will fit? I have some 235/75-15 MT Bighorns would like to slip them under there will they fit? looks like room in the rear, just may have a strut clearence issue in the front , anyway this may take some time . first will be lift design and construction, then more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 yep, that will have the 276mm 2-pot front brakes, which will fit under 15s just fine. I believe that should have a 4.111 axle ratio. Which is the same as the 5MTs in first-gen legacies. The push-style hydraulic transmissions (what that has) are easily converted to cable (move the pivot ball, swap the fork, bolt the cable bracket on). But I'm not sure about the other way around. I don't think the older trans will have the other mount for the pivot ball, or the holes for the slave cylinder. I'm sure something could be done, but it's probably not going to be totally bolt-on. But yes, crossmember, linkage, and driveshaft will all be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott in Bellingham Posted May 15, 2011 Author Share Posted May 15, 2011 thanks Chux I just remembered I also have a 96 5 speed would that be a better match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
987687 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 thanks Chux I just remembered I also have a 96 5 speed would that be a better match? My 96 was cable and 3.9 ratio. That was in a Legacy L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 yea, only the 2.5s got the hydraulic clutch. And in '96 the outback MTs were 2.2, and I don't think the LGT started until '97. It MIGHT have the newer casting though, which would mean the extra hole for the other pivot location, and mounts for the slave. But, if it were me. I'd drop the gears and such from the '91 into the '00 case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezapar Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Those things are sooooooooooooooooooooooooo heavy! Approach and departure angles are rediculous. Sell it, use the money to buy nice things for your actual wheelers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatswhatshesaid Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Once you develop a lift kit for it, can I come to Bellingham and work in your shop in trade for a lift for my '00 Outback? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael appel Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Already lifted a few they look so cool do it scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatswhatshesaid Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Already lifted a few they look so cool do it scott 3rd gen? I wanna see pictures! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobyclimbs Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) Mine's an '03 so bigger front brakes/ calipers( I ground the calipers down to fit 15" rims.) '01 was the model year change to bigger brakes/calipers. H6 that thing and make a real beast! Gut the interior to save some weight, add some tube bumpers Edited May 20, 2011 by scoobyclimbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesstutrey Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 (edited) double post. Edited May 27, 2011 by lesstutrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesstutrey Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 (edited) Yeah, i have a 2" lifted one. It kisses the wheel wells in the rear with stock tire (225/65/R16). Even if you don't want to grind the calipers you can always add a lower profile caliper, however you are pre the bigger brakes, so you can run 15's NP. And yeah, they are heavy, my 2002 VDC is over 2 tons... but with just primacy mxv4s i haven't gotten stuck anywhere.. not that i've gone anywhere TOO sticky.. ripped across very muddy corn fields this spring, sure it could get stuck if i tried... Yet to destroy the bumper but my mud flaps aren't fairing well and are gonna get a replacement due to lots of high speed gravel... need a new front bumper.. someone needs to make them again =/ Yeah, you run in to problems with the spring perch if you try to run.. any tire. Needs 4" of lift to deal with the caster issues i think. I am also going to put 1" spacers on mine to deal with the narrower stance the lift left me with and to deal with the spring perch. How to completely deal with the spring perch would be to put a modded strut top lift so it has 2000-2003 style top and a 2004 lower so you can mount megan racing coilovers, then no spring problems, and adjustable suspension. Do i honestly feel like spending all this money on my DD though? I don't think i do. Spend money on something else... like something with a frame, aftermarket support and a car someone else might want after you dump a few grand on it getting it off-road worthy. Stupid to lecture i guess though.. just finding my OBW to be more trouble than worth for any off-road application. Edited May 27, 2011 by lesstutrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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