tanner93loyale Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I figured out I have a bad radiator and need to get a new one. Are all year loyale radiators or all ea82 radiator the same or do I need to get one from a 93 loyale like my car is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 The same from at least 86 through 94. Except the turbo radiator has 2 rows of tubes for more cooling capacity. I have always upgraded to those. But they are hard to find. There is minor modification required to mount them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanner93loyale Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 The same from at least 86 through 94. Except the turbo radiator has 2 rows of tubes for more cooling capacity. I have always upgraded to those. But they are hard to find. There is minor modification required to mount them. Cool thanks now on the search for a new radiator! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I did come across one variant in the past with a different angle on the lower hose. It also used a different lower hose. But all my others are the same, and use the same hose for top and bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanner93loyale Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 I did come across one variant in the past with a different angle on the lower hose. It also used a different lower hose. But all my others are the same, and use the same hose for top and bottom. What year was the one with a diffrent angle? I'm looking at a radiator for a 1990 loyale for my 93 loyale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I'm pretty sure it was an older one. Too long ago. It just used a different lower hose to meet the different angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonist Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) auto and manual rads are different also. the auto has a cooler in the left end tank. You can use auto one in a manual, but not the other way around unless you've got an external cooler Edited September 24, 2015 by wagonist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I believe all the aftermarket radiators now have the auto trans tank on the side, but as said before the lower neck is different. I believe 85-89 have ones that angles up, and 90-93 go straight out almost. Either one can be used, you just have to get the matching lower hose. When I've searched in the past the 90-93 ones are cheaper so I've always gone that route. The newer aluminum single rows typically out perform the older copper two row radiators, but it depends who you ask. My single row aluminum ea82 radiator is more than enough for the ej22 it's in front of and I abuse the hell out of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 where did you get the 1 row AL radiator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford'ssubaru's Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I took mine to the radiator shop and he ordered it for me for $100 and some change. No hassle, radiator guys usually know exactly what to do..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 They are not the same. Most are interchangeable. The Loyale ones have a the lower outlet straight out. and the '85-'89 EA82s have it at an angle. You only need the different hose to retrofit... OE rads for a manual transmission do not have a transmission cooler in them, aftermarket ones do and you just leave the lines plugged. So if you have an auto trans, keep that in mind (A standalone transmission cooler could be used, but water-to-air coolers are considerably less efficient, and typically not thermostatically controlled). Some EA82s (turbos, I think) had 2-row. Extra cooling capacity which is usually overkill....but worth considering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) where did you get the 1 row AL radiator? All the standard ea82 radiators I've gotten have been one row aluminum. I think I got mine from Orielly's for $120 Josh Edited September 25, 2015 by El Presidente Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czny Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) tanner93loyale I have a slightly used 90 loyale radiator to sell. PM sent. For anyone else, here's some pics. Bottom mounting pins are 22 inches apart. It is a brass single core radiator. Edited September 27, 2015 by czny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-tombba- Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Some EA82s (turbos, I think) had 2-row. Extra cooling capacity which is usually overkill....but worth considering. For the turbo versions it's not overkill at all. I found out that it's pretty hard to find even the standard one row replacement radiators here in europe nowdays. I did found one model that fits to my leone and was actually pretty cheap too (under 80€ / 90$ shipped). The thing I noticed that there seems to be a ton of different radiator models available for the leone series (3 gen). Even the one row versions have different sized cores in them. The one that I did found has core size of 645x322x16mm but there was two other common sizes to be found for leone series and those were 590x322x16mm and 668x322x16mm. The biggest is listed for turbo and the smaller one for NA EA82 engines. Funnily the one I've got that sits between those two sizes is listed for 1.3 EA65 engine. I do know that XT has that bigger size radiator and that my carbureted EA82 had that smaller size core in it but that size between those three seems to be the one that is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sull Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 The same from at least 86 through 94. Except the turbo radiator has 2 rows of tubes for more cooling capacity. I have always upgraded to those. But they are hard to find. There is minor modification required to mount them. Yeah I purchased a pricey 2 row metal radiator, waited 5 weeks for it to arrive, and it was a plastic 1 row that was sent to me (amazon spectra radiator). returned and gave up on that for now since my current radiator is actually working fine, just wanted to upgrade. the 2" lift actually helped keep engine cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naru Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) FWIW,parts book lists 9 different EA-82 rads just in the 85-89 timeframe. 2 are for XTs. Most of the other differences seem to be auto/non and turbo/non. 87-88 4WDR california GL sedans have thier own part # for some reason. Edited September 26, 2015 by naru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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