dburton97128 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Hi, We drained the oil today and some metal parts came out. Looks like halves of some flat spring washer of some sort. Can anyone identify these parts? Does this mean my engine is dead? No other metal or grinding are present in the oil. One of these pieces cam out on the magnetic drain plug. I fished 3 more out with a magnet taped to the end of a wire. Does that account for all of "them" or could there be more in there? Photo attached. My son needs to drive this back to Utah next week. Too much to hope that it's something harmless I suppose. I might be able to drop the pan but I'm not sure if I can get to all the bolts around the frame mount without removing the motor. 1995 Subaru Legacy L wagon. 2.2L motor I think. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 did the 2.2s get magnetic drain plugs? engine oil right? what size are those parts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburton97128 Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) I magnetized the plug myself. Parts are about 1" across. I always run synthetic oil. Oil is free of any metal fine contaminants. Nothing on the magnet. (Except those big pieces) Edited December 31, 2015 by dburton97128 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Nothing in the engine that I know of looks like that. I'd flush out the pan with some diesel fuel, let it drain well. Fill with new oil and run it for a bit. you could also cut open the old filter and see what's in it. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Rocker shaft spring washers. I've had engines apart and found them in the bottom of the oil pan. Found half of one one time and couldn't figure where the other half went off to. Not too difficult to fix. Basically remove the valve covers, then remove the rocker shafts and disassemble them to put the new washers in. Part number: 13256AA030 #6 http://opposedforces.com/parts/legacy/us_b11/type_6/engine/valve_mechanism/illustration_4/ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburton97128 Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 Great. Thanks for that. Looks like there are 8 total and all should be replaced. What's the consequence of running without these? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 You wont notice any difference, but the rocker arms will wear on part of the rocker shaft support. When you get it apart you'll see the marks it leaves. Eventually (like after 100k miles), it might start to cause an issue, but i'm sure there are a lot of ej22s running around with those washers broken and sitting in the bottom of the oil pan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBARU3 Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Well I have been unable to locate these small rocker springs ANYWHERE. Discontinued. Valve Spring #13256AA030 I guess those with 2.2s will have to run without them! They break in half over time it seems and they end up in he oil pan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 2 hours ago, SUBARU3 said: Well I have been unable to locate these small rocker springs ANYWHERE. Discontinued. Valve Spring #13256AA030 I guess those with 2.2s will have to run without them! They break in half over time it seems and they end up in he oil pan. Nice, thanks for posting. Used or an alternate option is the only source I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laegion Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 6 hours ago, idosubaru said: Nice, thanks for posting. Used or an alternate option is the only source I guess. I found a few sources that say they have them in stock but they are not in the U.S.... https://www.amayama.com/en/part/subaru/13256aa030 https://partsouq.com/en/search/all?q=13256AA030 The shipping isn't great but they "appear" available. This seems like it was actually a common part used in all the earlier EJ engines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBARU3 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 1:29 PM, laegion said: I found a few sources that say they have them in stock but they are not in the U.S.... https://www.amayama.com/en/part/subaru/13256aa030 https://partsouq.com/en/search/all?q=13256AA030 The shipping isn't great but they "appear" available. This seems like it was actually a common part used in all the earlier EJ engines. I have tried 2 of the international wholesalers like that. Came back as not available. They all show 6 available. I think they capture that data from Subaru someplace, but when they go to order, they are not available and I get a refund. I guess I need to find some old junkyard engines and pull the rockers. But it appears that these are not 'critical' to the engine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 if you can get specs, maybe there's something off-the-shelf that will work? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvu Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 They look like wave spring washers maybe? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wave+spring+washers&iax=images&ia=images 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laegion Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 3 hours ago, nvu said: They look like wave spring washers maybe? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wave+spring+washers&iax=images&ia=images That is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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