jono Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Sorry if anyone has been waiting for breast augmentation but I think I have slowed up the silicone supply by my attempts to qui ten that incessant and embarrassing rattle. Got underneath and started injection if silicon between the shields through holes already provided. I think half a cartridge fixed it. I broke one gun . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead Saloon Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 That's a really good idea!! The retaining bolts on mine are seized solid. What kind of silicon did you use ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 keep a close watch on that.. Exhaust pipe temp can get pretty close if not over the operating temp of silicon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 Might be a good safety tip there Dave, thanks. I used roof and gutter silicone. Previously ( and I mean over 30 years previously) I used glazing silicone on exhausts before the automotive industry seamed to have caught on. Yet to have any troubles I tell you what though, the noise,vibration and harshness level has dropped significantly. Very pleased with the result so far. Yes, the holes I filled would ideally be air cooling vents for the rattlers with seized nuts n bolts. Might not have used my noggin totally in the approach. I did see some pale smoke drift out while stopped at traffic lights after , but at least no flippin' rattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 I think this method earns a " don't try this at home boys and girls" tag. It is still smoking after two 25 km drives! Never seen silicone actually combust yet. So keeping an eye on it until smoke stops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 According to ado it yourself website silicon will melt not burn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Dawg Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Badd rump roast!! Thanks for going in first! Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I always fixed the rattles with a cutoff wheel. Seems like it's not going to burst into flame, but it might smoulder until enough of it is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 Another 25 km run and I am sitting in beast trying to avoid the curing fumes after stopping. Stinks pretty bad. It ain't dripping out neither Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I've never seen rtv melt once cured. Char from too high heat, yes. Dissolved by contact with fuel, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) are there any higher temp variants? i wouldn't think household stuff is paying attention to temperature in the same way as auto. i've seen exhaust manifold gaskets smothered in RTV before i think... Edited September 26, 2017 by idosubaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skishop69 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Ultra copper will work as it's high temp, but as Dave said. lose the heat shield altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 Mmmm... Was general poroise silly stuff with a working range up to 150*C. Smell starting to disappear along with the curing smoke and the rettlehas not returned.Can't imagine how much ultra copper would cost by the cartridge!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Copper is good for somewhere around double that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subaru Scott Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I always tap around the heat shields to find the offending section, then grab the ears where they're bolted together with a pair of channel-locks, and bend them down, kind of half folding/dimpling the sides. Puts enough tension back in it to shut em up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 The curing smoke and smell is clearing up slowly. Pinching or bashing was thought of but I was in a lazy and creative mood. If they rattle again it might be a cut off wheel job. But this engine and exhaust is only temporary until I rehead my ea82t, fix my awd selector issue then this beast will be different again. Nearly thinking don't need turbo the way its going!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobiedubie Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 For GL10 cross pipes that rattle, you remove the middle of three sections that occur on the engine right end of the cross pipe. Subaru does not make cross pipes anymore. If the cross pipe has cracked at the turbo connection, about 3/4" down from the exit flange, you disassemble the heat shield around that connection, reweld the crack all around, and then reinstall the heat shield section. Otherwise, that crack will leak and make a lot of noise if you don't fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 Well a week later and curing smell and smoke is all gone and just the tiniest of rattle if you can call it that, has returned. Happy with my approach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead Saloon Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Cool idea mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 Spoke to silicon manufacturer today on another topic and raised this one. Not that he knew how hot the exhaust can get he recommended what I used , roof plumbing stuff. He did offer that an acetic cure type silicone would have a higher working temp but may react with the metals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickytrus Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Yeah, If you are talking about the heat shields on the wye pipe...... I have had those rattles........ Just loose the heat shield...Find out which one is loose and rattling.... cut it off ... what ever you need to do to lose it...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Any of the silicons of know of will burn off exhaust. Leaving a gap that will accelerate corrosion. And yes the acidic ones won't help with that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 Update...little bit off a buzz rattle sometimes but happy. I happened to be welding next to and right over fresh black silicone. Must say never seen silicon melt. Seen it char and burn to a crisp though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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